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Re: [GK2♫][T][CE] Turnabout Curtain ○ 

Message par Gav » Mar Fév 05, 2013 2:23 am

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Just finished the prologue. Well done.

Current theory: Prometheus is either Kristoph Gavin, Beatrice, or the victim (can't remember her name). Beatrice blackmailed Wright into burning down the mansion and killing himself. From these theories, we can conclude that the victim is not really dead and that the dead body was probably disguised and killed some time before the day/night. Finally, I believe that someone will find an incriminating piece of evidence against Shannon, not there before the fire - of course, meaning that the fire was only a distraction. I'll play a bit of Undone tonight and the rest tomorrow afternoon! Nice work!
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Re: [GK2♫][T][CE] Turnabout Curtain ○ 

Message par kwando1313 » Mar Fév 05, 2013 2:25 am

Glad you're enjoying it so far, Gav. :D




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Re: [GK2♫][T][CE] Turnabout Curtain ○ 

Message par eighthbit » Mar Fév 05, 2013 3:42 am

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So, I'm going to play this later, seeing that it contains...
Chiru elements. :tigre:
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Re: [GK2♫][T][CE] Turnabout Curtain ○ 

Message par kwando1313 » Mar Fév 05, 2013 3:44 am

eighthbit a écrit :
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So, I'm going to play this later, seeing that it contains...
Chiru elements. :tigre:


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The funny thing is... I interpreted the red in a different way... And it still works! :3




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Re: [GK2♫][T][CE] Turnabout Curtain ○ 

Message par Blackrune » Mar Fév 05, 2013 4:27 am

Spoiler : short because tired :
Uh huh... I think I'll have to agree with Gumpei's summation on this one. Quite the crazy trip.
For having relatively little gameplay, considering the length, what was there was always pretty well-implemented.
Story-wise I'm in a pleasant state of cluelessness as to what's going on and a somewhat more questionable state of being creeped out by almost all the characters. Way to go.


Haven't done this in a while, but...
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Re: [GK2♫][T][CE] Turnabout Curtain ○ 

Message par AquaAce72 » Mar Fév 05, 2013 4:43 am

Oh no...

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I named the mystery man "Wright"... I'm starting to regret that.

This is getting confusing. :random:

EDIT: Now that I see his sprite, I suppose I should call him the Mister E man. :P
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Re: [GK2♫][T][CE] Turnabout Curtain ○ 

Message par kwando1313 » Mar Fév 05, 2013 4:45 am

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EVERYONE KEEPS NAMING ??? PHOENIX WRIGHT OR APOLLO JUSTICE THANK GOODNESS FOR REDUNDANCIES.


Now that I've gotten THAAAAT out of the way...

Blackrune a écrit :
Spoiler : short because tired :
Uh huh... I think I'll have to agree with Gumpei's summation on this one. Quite the crazy trip.
For having relatively little gameplay, considering the length, what was there was always pretty well-implemented.
Story-wise I'm in a pleasant state of cluelessness as to what's going on and a somewhat more questionable state of being creeped out by almost all the characters. Way to go.


Haven't done this in a while, but...
Approved.


Ooh. Blackrune approved. Me likes this. :D

bjc72 a écrit :Oh no...

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I named the mystery man "Wright"... I'm starting to regret that.

This is getting confusing. :random:


Haha, don't worry, it won't be too bad. You'll understand sooner or later. :p




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Re: [GK2♫][T][CE] Turnabout Curtain ○ 

Message par Ferdielance » Mar Fév 05, 2013 4:55 am

Kwando: Aren't you glad I anticipated those choices in testing and asked that you add them???
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Message par kwando1313 » Mar Fév 05, 2013 5:02 am

Yes, yes I am. Good thing you did that indeed.

At least nobody has gone the Gumpei route so far. :D




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Re: [GK2♫][T][CE] Turnabout Curtain ○ 

Message par AquaAce72 » Mar Fév 05, 2013 8:26 am

I was quite enjoying this trial until the logic battles...

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at which point I became indescribably excited and immersed into the game. I mean, dang, the entire thing was great, but the logic game at the end was just fantastic.

I spent like 30 minutes thinking about the third mystery, but it's the only I couldn't solve. Is there some kind of alternate ending to the prologue if you get all the correct answers, or do you just get the third question answered?

Off-topic: Is Umineko anything like that logic game? If so, I'm gonna need to give it another chance, lol.
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Re: [GK2♫][T][CE] Turnabout Curtain ○ 

Message par ventuswings » Mar Fév 05, 2013 8:39 am

Spoiler : Part 2 spoiler :
Well, I must say that had been quite a mind-mixer. I had expected Phoenix Wright disguising his death, but constantly found myself being blown after revelation of Apollo's trial on Present Day. Breaking all the rules indeed. This would probably have made for excellent SoC, but since I was too concentrating to write one you get jumbled mess of initial impressions.

I myself... have little idea what's going on here, but story was done really well and sometimes scary, even discounting the troll-Beato jump scares I found to be weak at :(

Also interesting that you could 'miss' out some clues during investigation based on the order of place you visit. Combined with all the multiple choices, clearly there'll be True Ending which makes me still dubious whether Apollo is true murderer even with the red truth- I mean, there were several seemingly contradictory red truths like 'he [Phoenix Wright] was dead' thrown around already. At least it's heavily foreshadowed that there is mastermind behind the scenes...

Speaking of third party, pretty surprised about Shannon making quick exit (or at least that's what I felt from her conversation with Cross). Though the latter trial might be centered around confrontation between Cross and Justice, thought she'd get more than brief mention considering her prominence on the prologue. Actually, I'm not even sure Apollo's roots are canon anymore. Hard to see how he'd react so strongly to Umineko incident without being closely involved (especially with his strong reaction at judge using what is claimed to be stolen gold), which is unlikely if he's Grameye- but then there is Trucy argh.

Also closed room and another, magically disappearing gun? :?
Probably should hold off actual theorizing until I can get my mind sorted out on what's going on.

Again, splendid trial and I hope the latter parts get completed soon!
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Re: [GK2♫][T][CE] Turnabout Curtain ○ 

Message par turnabout Chaos » Mar Fév 05, 2013 9:25 am

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Prolouge, part 1 genius, pure genius.
Part 2: CROSS!??? WTF!? That killer is in on this!?
"it would make us liars.Claiming that we are something, while at the same time standing on the side of the exact opposite."
Says the guy who killed who knows how many people and masterminded his scapegoat's murder.


Spoiler : :
I ended up getting the paradox ending. what was the real ending?
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Re: [GK2♫][T][CE] Turnabout Curtain ○ 

Message par Gav » Mar Fév 05, 2013 12:53 pm

bjc72 a écrit :I was quite enjoying this trial until the logic battles...

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at which point I became indescribably excited and immersed into the game. I mean, dang, the entire thing was great, but the logic game at the end was just fantastic.

I spent like 30 minutes thinking about the third mystery, but it's the only I couldn't solve. Is there some kind of alternate ending to the prologue if you get all the correct answers, or do you just get the third question answered?

Off-topic: Is Umineko anything like that logic game? If so, I'm gonna need to give it another chance, lol.

Spoiler : :
Oh dear God, it is a lot like the logic game. You just have to wait for an episode and a half.
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Re: [GK2♫][T][CE] Turnabout Curtain ○ 

Message par DWaM » Mar Fév 05, 2013 4:00 pm

Well, glad everyone's enjoying it! :D

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Honestly, I never quite expected for people to be confused above all else... Oh, well, I suppose that came from the fact that I know the actual answer, but...


bjc72 a écrit :I was quite enjoying this trial until the logic battles...

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at which point I became indescribably excited and immersed into the game. I mean, dang, the entire thing was great, but the logic game at the end was just fantastic.

I spent like 30 minutes thinking about the third mystery, but it's the only I couldn't solve. Is there some kind of alternate ending to the prologue if you get all the correct answers, or do you just get the third question answered?

Off-topic: Is Umineko anything like that logic game? If so, I'm gonna need to give it another chance, lol.


Spoiler : :
I'm glad you liked it. The riddles won't come back to have revelation later, but to put you all at ease -- no, they will not effect your ability to get a good end. :P

We were originally going to have more rounds, but fearing that our time is going to be cut soon, we went with a bang, I guess you could say. XD


ventuswings a écrit :
Spoiler : Part 2 spoiler :
Well, I must say that had been quite a mind-mixer. I had expected Phoenix Wright disguising his death, but constantly found myself being blown after revelation of Apollo's trial on Present Day. Breaking all the rules indeed. This would probably have made for excellent SoC, but since I was too concentrating to write one you get jumbled mess of initial impressions.

I myself... have little idea what's going on here, but story was done really well and sometimes scary, even discounting the troll-Beato jump scares I found to be weak at :(

Also interesting that you could 'miss' out some clues during investigation based on the order of place you visit. Combined with all the multiple choices, clearly there'll be True Ending which makes me still dubious whether Apollo is true murderer even with the red truth- I mean, there were several seemingly contradictory red truths like 'he [Phoenix Wright] was dead' thrown around already. At least it's heavily foreshadowed that there is mastermind behind the scenes...

Speaking of third party, pretty surprised about Shannon making quick exit (or at least that's what I felt from her conversation with Cross). Though the latter trial might be centered around confrontation between Cross and Justice, thought she'd get more than brief mention considering her prominence on the prologue. Actually, I'm not even sure Apollo's roots are canon anymore. Hard to see how he'd react so strongly to Umineko incident without being closely involved (especially with his strong reaction at judge using what is claimed to be stolen gold), which is unlikely if he's Grameye- but then there is Trucy argh.

Also closed room and another, magically disappearing gun? :?
Probably should hold off actual theorizing until I can get my mind sorted out on what's going on.

Again, splendid trial and I hope the latter parts get completed soon!

Spoiler : :
Thank you very much. :)
Yeah, it was a pain to do, but yes, I wanted for the investigation to actually feel like an investigation (aka, sometimes, by the will of fate, you might just not be able to have it all). Not to mention, some of the clues you get will end up having an effect later on, so... Hope you picked the lesser of a bunch of evils! :D

Of course, I can't comment on your thoughts on the story, but hey - the fact that you aren't that confused that you can speculate is good. :3


turnabout Chaos a écrit :
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I ended up getting the paradox ending. what was the real ending?

Spoiler : :
The case isn't finished yet, but the fact that you got the Paradox end means that you made a few wrong choices down the path (If you happened to get "At Redemption's Door", then just change at least one choice you made down the path, and I'm pretty sure you'll be good to go).
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Re: [GK2♫][T][CE] Turnabout Curtain ○ 

Message par ventuswings » Mar Fév 05, 2013 5:45 pm

Spoiler : Puzzle spoiler :
Yeeeeeees, got it right on my first serious hypothesis! (not 'working' because thought it kinda conflicted with one of red truths but couldn't see any other way... more on that via PM) :D
I was actually thinking it was bit of a waste not to use this mystery as actual trial, but now I can see why. Too much Chess. Bit disappointed that it didn't seem to make any difference though. Still, the entertainment value of shocking Shannon out of her expectations was well worth it. Had far more satisfaction out of that than I should have.

Thanks for the puzzle! Now nothing more to do than wait I guess :?
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