A few notes: * You absolutely need the newest version of PyWright (version 0.989, included with Conflict of Interest), otherwise the user interface will not work properly! * There is a strange and inconsistent bug that has been reported in which characters suddenly disappear altogether from court sections. It usually happens when you save and reload too often. To fix this, simply restart PyWright and load at an earlier save. * There is an examine spot during the investigation seemingly hidden behind the 'Back' button. Unfortunately, there's not much I could do there. It's still fairly visible on the top screen, though, so you should be able to get through the section without much issue. * Which also brings me to another point -- please play in dual screen. Mainly for some interface details.
Premise Taking place several months after the events of Spirit of Justice, Phoenix finds himself alone when he takes a rather strange -- and extremely hopeless case. With an uncooperative defendant, a staggering amount of evidence supporting the police's case, and a prosecutor that clearly has it in for him, how will Phoenix turn things around? Is there even any room for doubt?
Where does the truth lie?
In the hearts of the key players, all with their own secrets and motives?
Between the trees of the dense forest, the scene of a horrific murder?
Or perhaps, in the mythical city of gold that seems to be the connecting factor between the strange circumstances of the case -- El Dorado?
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While this case does take place after SoJ, it's worth noting that this case contains practically no spoilers for the story of that game. In total, it only features a handful of references.
Screenshots
Spoiler : Possible Spoilers :
Credits
Spoiler : Credits (Spoilers for the entire case!) :
Written by DWaM
Sprites by Sligneris: New Phoenix Sprites FenrirDarkWolf: Young Ema, Lucas Greenwell Ceres: Lex Rumstrum DragonTrainer Victoria Nova Hesseldahl SoJ Ema (Animated by ApolloGrimoire), Front Phoenix Sprites (Animated by ApolloGrimoire), Courtroom 'Mini' Sprite SuperAj3: 'Eve' Silver Glas: 'Adam'
Gloriously tested by Spyromed kwando1313 hershel_layton CoastertheDimwitt (Part 1 Only)
Other Music used Opening ~ A Need for Your Death is: Helsey - Control (Instrumental) Memories ~ Better Times is: Hotel Dusk - Dead Stare Memories ~ Hopeful Times is: Hotel Dusk - Sunset Men Memories ~ Legend of Nobody is: Dark Souls 3 - Character Creation Investigation ~ Gloomy Scenery is: G-Senjou no Maou - Doubt Investigation ~ Deep in the Forest is: Chase: Cold Case Investigations - Track 1 Investigation ~ Moving Along is: Ever 17 - Kopfsprung Investigation ~ Getting Your Hands Dirty is: Killer 7 - Back to the Light Investigation ~ Dark Resolution is: Kara no Shoujo 2 - Dark Thread Investigation ~ Confronting The Culprit is: Hotel Dusk - Resolution Eve ~ Her Client's Will is: Killer7 - White Sugar Lex Rumstrum ~ The Man Who Sees All is: No More Heroes - K-Entertainment Adam ~ Remember Me Not is: Ever17 - Dritterstock Saving The Case With A Broken Tail Light is: Touhou 14 - Shining Needle Castle Sinking in the Air The Hobo's Favorite Melody is: Anastasia - One Upon a December Victoria's Ascent is: Umineko no naku koro ni - One Victoria's Rebellion is: Umineko Music Box Blue - Tsubasa Last Stand is: Umineko Music Box Blue - Black Knight End Credits song is: Of Monsters and Men - Empire
Walkthrough (One is included in the game files, but you for extra convenience, I've included one here, as well)
Spoiler : Massive spoilers, obviously :
A TURNABOUT TO EL DORADO -- WALKTHROUGH
PROLOGUE
Go through all three options
PART 1 -- INVESTIGATION
Exhaust all talk options Move -> Detention Center
Exhaust all talk options Move -> City Outskirts
Examine -> Badge and Car Go through all options
Examine -> The knife, the bloodstain (it's hidden behind the back button, but you can see it on the upper screen), the inside of the hut and the vines Exhaust all talk options
Move -> Path to Hut Move -> City Outskirts Move -> Detention Center
Exhaust all talk options Move -> Wright Anything Agency
Exhaust all talk options
PART 2 -- TRIAL
-- Facts of the Case -- Press Statement 1 -> Answer 'Yes' (Statement 1-1 Revealed) Present 'The Army of Starts' on Statement 1-1 Present Tire Tracks (Statement 1-1 Changed) Present Nova's Body on Statement 1-1 Present the Knife
-- How I Caught Him -- Press Statements 2, 3, 5, 6 Present Car on Statement 2 Answer 'It wasn't the same car' Answer 'To get Gumshoe's attention' Present Nova's Body OR The Car Answer 'Where the car was found'
-- Common Sense -- Press Statement 2 Present Prank Call on Statement 3 Present Nearby Accident on Statement 5
-- A Sinister Atmosphere -- Press Statement 2 Present Victoria's Profile on Statement 5 Present the Autopsy Report Present the Badge Present Pool of Blood on Statement 2
-- The Attacker -- Present the Knife on Statement 3 Present the Knife
Examine -> The traces of fire and the desk Move -> Greenwell's Office
Examine -> Computer, photo on the wall, bookshelf to the left and empty cases to the right Move -> Greenwell's Garage -> Detention Center Present -> Traces of fire (and fingerprint, optionally)
Move -> Path to Hut Examine -> Traces of blood Move -> Forest Path Present -> Drop of Blood
Move -> Path to Hut -> City Outskirts -> Wright Anything Agency
Exhaust all talk options Examine -> The window, the desk, the books/files, and Eve
Move -> Ema's Apartment Examine -> Desk and Bed
Move -> City Outkirts -> Ravenview Forest -> Forest Path Present Lex's Profile Move -> Path to Hut -> City Outskirts -> Detention Center Talk -> New Option Present -> Locket Answer 'Nova was living with her'
Move -> Wright Anything Agency
PART 4 -- TRIAL
-- A Mistake, One Way or Another -- Present Second Set of Tire Tracks on Statement 1 Present Nearby Accident
-- Naive Reasoning -- (OPTIONAL) Present Rumstrum's Phone on Statement 2 Present Rumstrum's Phone on Statement 4 Present the Badge Present Nova's Police Report
-- Not What You Think -- Press Statement 5 Present the Knife on Statement 5 To get through this next section -> Simply listen to the recording yourself before you get a game over
-- Never Suicide -- Press Statement 1 -> Answer 'The Expedition' Press Statement 3 -> Answer 'Hang on a moment' Present Book on Toxins (Statement 3-1 Revealed) Present The Newspaper on Statement 3-1 Present the Autopsy Report
-- Twisted Words -- Press All Statements
PART 5 -- INVESTIGATION
Examine -> Bed and desk
Move -> Detention Center Exhaust all talk options
Move -> Rubin Pharmaceuticals Exhaust all talk options
Move -> City Outskirts -> Crime(?) Scene Exhaust all talk options
Move -> Thurston's Home Examine -> Desk
Go through all three options
Move around randomly until the section ends
-- Interrogation -- Answer either Hide the truth Answer honestly Ask a question 'Why are you doing this to me?' Bluff 'We did meet, though' Refuse to answer Insist that it is 'It's sensitive information' 'You're worried for your father' Rumstrum
PART 6 -- TRIAL
-- A Matter Of Knowledge -- Present Nova's Phone on Statement 1
-- Impossible Ascent -- Present the Car on Statement 11 Answer 'The trunk'
-- Nothing To Hide, Not Even Me -- Present the badge OR Rumstrum's Phone on Statement 3 Present the Pool of Blood Answer 'It isn't' Present the Visitor's List Present Eve's Profile Present FBI Investigation Present Adam's Profile
-- Thurston -- Present Police Call on Statement 2
-- Tying To Scenes -- Present Fingerprint on Statement 2 Present Traces of Fire
-- Dead On Arrival -- Present the Scream on Statement 4 Answer 'Was unconscious' Present the Brochure Present Drop of Blood
-- The Dream of El Dorado -- Present Nova's Body on Statement 7
Present Nova's Locket
A TURNABOUT TO EL DORADO -- END
Ace Attorney / Gyakuten Saiban is property of Capcom. This fan game is not affiliated with Capcom in any way and is entirely by and for fans.
Last edited by DWaM on Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:56 am, edited 7 times in total.
Well, development will probably take a longer hiatus after this first part. I sped this initial section now because I found myself at a convenient time to do so, dass all.
A couple of notes: * You absolutely need the newest version of PyWright (version 0.989, included with Conflict of Interest), otherwise the user interface will not work properly! * Music does not loop. I can't exactly claim it's intentional -- it's just something I honestly have no skill, time or effort to do. If anyone wants to do it, they are welcome to, of course. But just wanted to point out it's not a bug. * There is a strange and inconsistent bug that has been reported in which characters suddenly disappear altogether from court sections. To fix this, simply reload from an earlier save, before experiencing the issue, and that should fix it. Save often just in case, though! * There is an examine spot during the investigation seemingly hidden behind the 'Back' button. Unfortunately, there's not much I could do there. It's still fairly visible on the top screen, though, so you should be able to get through the section without much issue. * Which also brings me to another point -- please play in dual screen. Mainly for some interface details.
The main post has also been updated with the credits for this part.
For those of you who aren't aware of the CR thread -- that one's been updated quite a bit more than this one. Basically, the plan for parts to be released individually was scrapped, and I decided to release parts 2 and 3 together when they're done.
And, well, they're done and currently in beta-testing.
I want to thank everyone who helped me in terms of art, music, and beta-testing to see it through. I'm very happy with the final product, and I hope you will be, as well.
Notes regarding this part are pretty much the same as the last part. The only thing I have to add is that, if you've already played Part 1, to look for 'IF YOU'VE ALREADY PLAYED PART 1' text file in the game files and edit the intro file accordingly to move onto the remaining part. But you already know the drill from Contempt of Court / Conflict of Interest at this point, I imagine.
The log between Blader and I as promised. I think you can figure out which is which --
Spoiler : this has spoilers for like, most of dwam's cases. including this one obviously :
Kiri - Yesterday at 5:42 PM ok you ready to do this? berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:43 PM yes Kiri - Yesterday at 5:43 PM then let's GO i've personally been terrified ema is the killer ever since noticing she was in the header also F*** i can't type in discord without freezing pywright i forgot that's gonna be annoying berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:44 PM phone? Kiri - Yesterday at 5:44 PM good idea Gonna be slower this way but at least the log will have funnier typos probably I've already had enough of red over here berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:46 PM isnt three people a little small for an expedition Kiri - Yesterday at 5:46 PM Not in fiction berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:47 PM why do i already feel this ends up like scapegoat's murder Kiri - Yesterday at 5:47 PM Hello randomly glasses-less ema What an oddly conspicuous edit Ema is definitely either the murderer or victim I am talking to her first i think dwam's entire career has been figuring out what characters he hasn't made a grimdark version of yet so i'm just inclined to be immediately suspicious of anybody he hasn't done that to yet red boy now berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:54 PM victoria nova what a silly name Kiri - Yesterday at 5:55 PM Sounds very superhero berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:55 PM the way he's writing ema seems really weird Kiri - Yesterday at 5:55 PM Yeah it is berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:55 PM i have to assume its intentional Kiri - Yesterday at 5:55 PM She isn't much like herself Given that this is post SoJ anyway She seems very amateurish props to dwam for writing in a way that the character names all get introduced naturally in dialogue also i hate it when it's done where people will just randomly say someone's full name in their first scene with them or whatever for the sake of it it's really inorganic he did it well here tho berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:57 PM i mean apart from "Ms. Nova" i only see everyones first name Kiri - Yesterday at 5:57 PM well yeah but we don't need to know their last names for now anyway important thing is just having something to call them berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:58 PM using first names just, really doesnt seem hard Kiri - Yesterday at 5:58 PM well it is when you realize how little you'll actually say someone's name in one on one conversation a lot of things f*** this up and will just tack it on once and never again berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:59 PM i strongly suspect victoria nova is the one who dies actually Kiri - Yesterday at 6:00 PM in that case i'll call dwam a ripoff for killing the protagonist in the first part of the case berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:00 PM this leg injury they keep harping on seems very useful to a mystery writer Kiri - Yesterday at 6:01 PM Onwards to luthor berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:06 PM i love dwam we go straight from a really dramtic situation to this s*** Kiri - Yesterday at 6:07 PM Fell a bit behind there just now finished the last convo Jesus that scream Oh I was expecting this to be a joke based on your comment but I guess this was actually the dramatic situation berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:10 PM i am slightly ahead Kiri - Yesterday at 6:12 PM Well this sure is Anyway thankfully ema seems TOO obvious by process of elimination here so I'm leaning away from her But who knows berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:13 PM being ahead of you i have news she just lept from "being written strangely" to now "blatantly f***ing suspicious" Kiri - Yesterday at 6:14 PM She has her glasses again berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:14 PM ...actually when i think about it this MAY have some measure of justification but i kinda think its bull but ill run it by you anyway Kiri - Yesterday at 6:15 PM Something is definitely up with her in any case berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:15 PM but yeah like she goes from being all shy and timid to now being her usual self completely normal in front of nick you can argue its because shes known nick for years and is comfortable around him Kiri - Yesterday at 6:16 PM i think there's two emas there is a REASON for this glasses s*** berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:16 PM but i still dont really like that bhecause shes not portrayed as shy around new people even when there's a task shes unfamiliar with ahead but while i do think you can interpert the charcter as an introverted nerd it just seems really really weird to do that but all of this probably does mean something0 do you think it means lana Kiri - Yesterday at 6:17 PM i was considering lana yeah we'll see berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:17 PM also "The victim was Victoria Nova, an anthropoligist." i knew that leg injury was too tasty to just ignore Kiri - Yesterday at 6:17 PM f***ing ripoff berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:17 PM and also, an anthropologist an anthroapologist thats why the name is so ridioculous shes a furry Kiri - Yesterday at 6:18 PM the pywright talky soundbyte is starting to irritate me it's got a weird grating quality to it maybe it's just with this music hm wait actually this makes the most sense if the first part of the case was a flashback it obviously had to be, this seems to be a different case entirely now that could justify ema having different behavior now since at the start she was acting much more like teenage ema still sus tho berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:21 PM well wouldnt he be using the younger sprites i am wondering how far apart these murders are Kiri - Yesterday at 6:21 PM i don't think she was THAT much younger just younger enough to not have gone through her disillusionment yet tho she did always have the glasses even when she was a teen so that's still notable i am a fan of the nick/ema investigation team nonetheless berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:23 PM four years apparantly Kiri - Yesterday at 6:23 PM there we go ok to the DC now (also we didn't get to actually experience the protagonist's moment of death for ourselves so i can't call dwam a ripoff i guess.................) berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:29 PM and i wouldnt go as far to call victoria a protagonist anyway Kiri - Yesterday at 6:29 PM yeah we didn't play as her long enough i do suspect we'll get more flashbacks as her tho berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:29 PM this being said i'm pretty sure ema just metacleared herself oh ok five years ago four was a guess based ona talk topici think youre reading now Kiri - Yesterday at 6:30 PM yeah i gotcha this man is worst defendant berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:33 PM whats the fun in a good one who cooperates Kiri - Yesterday at 6:36 PM what was ema's metaclear incidentally berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:36 PM lucas greenwell himself were ema responsible for the killing she could have simply said "ok nick f*** this asshole lets go" Kiri - Yesterday at 6:37 PM nah i don't buy that there could definitely still be reasons for her to do it i'm only finding her more suspicious now that she opened up about the expedition five years ago but still isn't saying a thing about the murder back then berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:37 PM well theres really no obvious benefit at all when you could simply throw him under the bus and be done with it Kiri - Yesterday at 6:37 PM why would the benefit be obvious this is dwam i do feel we're at least gonna get a trucy in dragon's style confrontation with ema in this case bare minimum even if she's not the killer berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:44 PM well case closed tell me when you get the brochure Kiri - Yesterday at 6:44 PM ema making sure she's the only one who touches anything is suspicious as F*** berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:44 PM i just solved EVERYTHING but anyway ikr maybe nick wants to touch some genitals too who the f*** are you to deny him that lady Kiri - Yesterday at 6:48 PM incidentally ema could totally just be making up that she gave this to victoria at all berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:49 PM why would she want that connected to her im just doubting emas involvement in this completely she is painting way too many targets on herself if shes the damn killer Kiri - Yesterday at 6:50 PM that's the one thing yeah there's way too much dirt on her already at this point soooo many lines of dialogue are standing out at me tho that feel like things i'm not supposed to be noticing yet berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:51 PM i completely refuse to believe any killer would get themselves this involved in a case even if that killer was hazama Kiri - Yesterday at 6:55 PM naturally we will be resyncing for the next part i got way too f***ing behind here sorry about that berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:55 PM did you get the brochure yet Kiri - Yesterday at 6:55 PM gumshoe just showed up dwam is also using so many bgs in this i used in turnabout of nowhere he's a ripoff even tho he never played that and had no way to berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:58 PM i dont recognize any of them but that was forever ago Kiri - Yesterday at 7:01 PM all right got the brochure so what's the word on it kay reference is standing out at me berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:02 PM ok have a look inside rave the raven killed victoria with his beak carried her off to greenwells car opened it stuffed her inside then slammed it shut with his body weight and flew off intot he night having gotten off scot free with murder case closed gg go watch the g1 or something Kiri - Yesterday at 7:03 PM ah you're right too bad there wasn't a new show today so i guess i'll just keep playing anyway even tho you solved it berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:06 PM okay though but in seriousness i actually did notice something HUGE but you havent found it yet inform me when you find the murder weapon Kiri - Yesterday at 7:11 PM got it(edited) berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:11 PM okay you will notice one VERY important clarification being left out of the knife description nowhere is it stated that is victoria's blood soooo i'm going with, it's lex's Kiri - Yesterday at 7:12 PM oh yup you are absolutely right lucas never bothered to clean the thing in the last five years then berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:13 PM of course he didnt Kiri - Yesterday at 7:15 PM theory: ema killed lex and is being blackmailed into taking this case for lucas now who knows she did it? berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:16 PM theres a number of things i dont really like about that but it is possible also if the knife hasnt had the blood cleaned off it why would the fingerprints been taken care of i feel its reasonable to say lucas killed lex for whatever reason, likely with what the introduction was telling us Kiri - Yesterday at 7:17 PM they wouldn't be, they'd just be covered up by lucas now since he took it home but yeah it's not impossible he was actually responsible there glad gumshoe carries around a f***ing landline phone with him still that's not even out of character the way ema's talking to lucas makes me rescind my accomplice theory at least berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:28 PM can confirm there are more scenes as victoria by the way Kiri - Yesterday at 7:32 PM i did love the detail that nick knows how to say "we are extremely poor" in 57 different languages berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:32 PM so get a load of this ladys name Kiri - Yesterday at 7:32 PM we got adam and eve up in heah i'm glad wright didn't even have to think about whether he'd take the money or not for more than a second anyway 100% ema is not the killer the moment nick starts finding her behavior openly suspicious himself that's out the window she could still be involved in lex's murder somehow but absolutely not this one victoria now (incidentally if ema was responsible for lex's death in some capacity, which is what put victoria in an institution for all these years, that would make her want to stay close to her to make up for what she did) berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:45 PM if ema IS the killer she's just genuinely the worst of all time frank sahwit knew how to be less suspiciouis Kiri - Yesterday at 7:45 PM well she's not the killer berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:45 PM ik im simply saying shes the worst one of all time if she is Kiri - Yesterday at 7:46 PM woah did you not stop before going into court or did you berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:46 PM im just d***ing around in the lobby Kiri - Yesterday at 7:46 PM oh ok give me one second then, bathroom i just got in the lobby berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:47 PM "If your body doesn't arive in 30 minutes, it's free!" almost sounds like hes a prostitute i guess the pizzas came with extra sausage Kiri - Yesterday at 7:52 PM ok sorry about that let's keep going now berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:52 PM yes yes sausage as a d*** joke for pizza boys is done to death but come on there was a legitimate opening there so whos the prostitutor place your bets now Kiri - Yesterday at 7:54 PM all in on gaspen berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:56 PM only two locks the secret couldnt have been THAT huge Kiri - Yesterday at 7:56 PM yeah she implied that it was kind of a small thing but it's clearly more important than she thinks i was close berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:58 PM uh wait WAS that winston in khura'in Kiri - Yesterday at 7:58 PM no berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:58 PM i thought it was gaspen Kiri - Yesterday at 7:58 PM it was it's a joke berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:58 PM oh yeah ok berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:00 PM i hope to god payne lasts for a grand total of one cross examination like platinum Kiri - Yesterday at 8:01 PM i hope payne is the killer berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:01 PM he did make the judge the killer nothings sacred anymore Kiri - Yesterday at 8:01 PM most of the people in this case have been killers in dwam's other cases berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:02 PM father was an "everybody did it!" kind of deal right Kiri - Yesterday at 8:02 PM yeah done pressing berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:09 PM you see it right this ones easy Kiri - Yesterday at 8:10 PM think so yup i get what the contradiction is supposed to be here but i don't really know how to present it berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:17 PM which one Kiri - Yesterday at 8:17 PM after you get gumshoe's theory that he drove her there berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:17 PM nova's body Kiri - Yesterday at 8:18 PM thank berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:21 PM ew payne thats pretty gross Kiri - Yesterday at 8:22 PM winston is far too competent berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:22 PM necrophilia made him stronger CE2 is.... odd i feel like the biggest thing here is what happened to the surgical mask and why it was never mentioned earlier but theres nothing really to work with Kiri - Yesterday at 8:33 PM yeah it's the obvious point of interest i have a couple of ideas but they're iffy berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:34 PM gumshoes shopping list is the surgical mask idk Kiri - Yesterday at 8:35 PM nope they weren't correct i thought i could point out either that he might have been wearing it due to extended exposure to army of stars or that it might actually be the scarf around his neck pulled up but no dice berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:37 PM tempted to peek at the script Kiri - Yesterday at 8:37 PM no berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:40 PM then im brute forcing it because i have no f***ing clue what im supposed to do here oh wow that actually worked pretty fast Kiri - Yesterday at 8:40 PM whatcha got berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:40 PM OH I actually thought this was weird but like ok its a press and present thing greenwell's car on statement 2 after youve pressed it Kiri - Yesterday at 8:42 PM okay yeah i just didn't consider the possibility of a press present "(Sure, I've got nothing, but that's never stopped me before!)" AA in a nutshell ok how could gumshoe have not noticed that tho oh okay that's fair i'm glad someone finally put all these car BGs to use i'd been trying to for years i mean i did use some of them in nowhere but dwam's using em way better than i did allegro time imnediately obviosu contradiction berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:52 PM issue number two correct i imagine we need to debunk all three Kiri - Yesterday at 8:52 PM eeyup but possibly we might yeah let's see yep berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:53 PM oh s*** i have Kiri - Yesterday at 8:53 PM all right then berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:53 PM two out of three solved! i just dont know about issue number 1 Kiri - Yesterday at 8:54 PM what's 3 i think i have it just wanna make sure berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:54 PM nearbya ccident Kiri - Yesterday at 8:54 PM yup berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:54 PM im 95% confident Kiri - Yesterday at 8:54 PM oh no it was not berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:54 PM ...s*** no i guess it couldnt be..... you would still need to leave the pristine car there Kiri - Yesterday at 8:55 PM i also thought that's what it was gonna be so eh THAT FAIL CONVO THO OMG ok let's try pressing then berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:55 PM i already pressed everything oh no it IS the nearby accident you presentedit on the wrong statement Kiri - Yesterday at 8:56 PM oh berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:56 PM you present it at "I would have seen that car driving away!" Kiri - Yesterday at 8:56 PM dwammit ema better tell us what's up now also weird having a case with no assistant whatsoever i just realized Kiri - Yesterday at 9:01 PM wait f***ing, seriously nick? that's total bulls*** just don't even bring it up in the first place then if we're gonna delay it this needlessly long how convenient that this was NINE MONTHS before the expedition... berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:07 PM idol worship could be why ema seemed so weird around victoria and then not around nick yeah definitely comes off as an idol worship deal Kiri - Yesterday at 9:09 PM yeah i can see that berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:10 PM that being said, possibly hiding the asylum thing to protect her reputation Kiri - Yesterday at 9:10 PM that's just silly protecting her reputation from who everybody already knew except nick i don't think keeping her reputation up to someone who didn't know her is a priority she would have i do really like how the flashbacks have been integrated so far and they've all been really good scenes of character-building this is a problem i've had before too, ESPECIALLY in TRev, but it is pretty lame when you have an entire trial part that's just. completely pointless oh right nick knows he's telling the truth now ...either that or he knows he's lying nope truth is there a way to save in pywright btw berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:23 PM bork lazer's finishing manuver Kiri - Yesterday at 9:24 PM thank berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:25 PM enpty yandere mastermind athena put victoria in the trunk and also killed him because jealousy idfk Kiri - Yesterday at 9:28 PM you still on this CE? berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:28 PM oh ohhhh boy OHHHHH boy pywright f***ed itself though hang on Kiri - Yesterday at 9:28 PM o berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:29 PM its fine i literally just saved Kiri - Yesterday at 9:29 PM i don't have this one tho berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:29 PM ok as implie the last statement is what you want to focus on i pose the question to you name all the people who could have put victoria in the trunk Kiri - Yesterday at 9:30 PM uh i mean, only one person was there berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:30 PM was there really Kiri - Yesterday at 9:30 PM there was probably another so that opens it up to potentially being anyone berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:30 PM -all- of the people who could have done it Kiri - Yesterday at 9:30 PM gumshoe could have berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:31 PM their profile is in the court record Kiri - Yesterday at 9:32 PM okay there wait what there's more tho berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:35 PM seems that way Kiri - Yesterday at 9:35 PM you catching the blood thing early does take away a lot of the tension here berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:35 PM it looks like we're meant to drop the bombshell about the knife but when Kiri - Yesterday at 9:36 PM got #2 think it's gonna happen here berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:37 PM wait whats the second contradiction then what must i do Kiri - Yesterday at 9:37 PM pool of blood on statement about not seeing anyone in the hut ....oh well i know where this is going anyway berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:40 PM yandere athena is it going to yandere athena Kiri - Yesterday at 9:41 PM no it's rave the raven we figured this out ages ago remember actually i... think that might be exactly where this was going berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:41 PM OMFG i I THINK SO TOO he does claim its a man but Kiri - Yesterday at 9:44 PM we'll see and theeeeere it is berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:46 PM did i ace that s*** or WHAT Kiri - Yesterday at 9:46 PM you did good i will also totally excuse this on account of the investigation team being payne and gumshoe this is just fair game for them to make a mistake like this berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:47 PM tbh payne being as competent as he is is ooc enough Kiri - Yesterday at 9:47 PM true berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:49 PM this should really get him kicked off the trial Kiri - Yesterday at 9:50 PM i imagine it will berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:50 PM i do not want to play against goddamn payne unless youre doing something with his character and i dont think dwam is that desperate yet Kiri - Yesterday at 9:57 PM in part 3 now this is the first time dwam's ever done a second investigation before innit berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:59 PM wright playing piano actually properly is pretty f***ing badass like for the first time in years i like something about the man in the suit berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:00 PM also what do you mean dragon had two curtain probably did too Kiri - Yesterday at 10:00 PM curtain didn't and i forgot dragon's i guess berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:00 PM f*** a duck dragon probably had three that case was completely normal Kiri - Yesterday at 10:01 PM hittin up the DC i imagine ema will be the bookend(edited) berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:02 PM wright for pretending to play piano that was classy as f*** thats something the games need to do if phoenix must stay alive at least make him a better character Kiri - Yesterday at 10:02 PM i don't think making him better at playing piano will do that berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:03 PM i do thats some classy sherlock holmes bulls*** its great Kiri - Yesterday at 10:03 PM phoenix wright is not sherlock holmes nor should he be berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:03 PM no bu8t he should be a better piano player its badass and makes sense IC and you are not going to change my mind on that Kiri - Yesterday at 10:04 PM i mean it objectively doesn't make sense IC given that IC he is a terrible piano player berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:04 PM he was a bad lawyer too he got better Kiri - Yesterday at 10:04 PM sure and being a lawyer is his job berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:04 PM and so was piano for a while Kiri - Yesterday at 10:05 PM his job was gambling berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:05 PM he played piano on the side Kiri - Yesterday at 10:05 PM as a front berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:05 PM and in the dark and it made me cry just a little is this sending ok Kiri - Yesterday at 10:05 PM now it is berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:05 PM it just lagged WELP Kiri - Yesterday at 10:09 PM hi black locks lex had to be responsible for the death of the child somehow or another berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:11 PM wait, what child Kiri - Yesterday at 10:11 PM ...the, one that victoria has been carrying in flashbacks did you really not pick up on that berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:11 PM ....i have not noticed her carrying any such child Kiri - Yesterday at 10:11 PM ...you didn't, realize that she was having morning sickness. and that she said "it could have been a false positive" and that there was something she needed to tell lucas in person about a night they spent together in the hut berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:12 PM i thought she just didnt want to get out of bed i never want tog et out of bed Kiri - Yesterday at 10:12 PM and that this was nine months before the expedition yeah but that was far from the only clue here yes victoria has been pregnant in the flashbacks with lucas's child berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:12 PM well it all went completely over my head ok Kiri - Yesterday at 10:12 PM that's incredible berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:13 PM i legitimately had no clue what you were on about with the nine months thing Kiri - Yesterday at 10:13 PM i'm flabbergasted that you didn't pick up on this i know it's you but berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:13 PM well i didnt Kiri - Yesterday at 10:13 PM amazed berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:13 PM what do you want me to say Kiri - Yesterday at 10:14 PM i'm just glad this log will be in the thread but yeah anyway makes the most sense to me that the child died and it was lex's fault somehow and that's why lucas offed him victoria was talking up some terrible thing lex did in the beginning anyway i didn't think it would quite be THAT bad but maybe it was an accident wait i think curtain DID have a second investigation actually you're right but dwam's never had a second investigation for the same crime that's why this one felt different the first crime always gets solved and then we move on to a different one holy s*** i used this BG in nowhere too it's not even relevant to cars berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:17 PM i played that thing and i recall exactly none of these backgrounds Kiri - Yesterday at 10:17 PM it was the front of alberto and gretta's house you don't remember it bc it was at night tho that's why none of these have been familiar dwam's using the day versions crazy coincidence tho berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:19 PM THATS RIGHT NICK CHECK HIS BROWSER HISTORY LOOK UP ALL HIS FAVORITE PORN SITES i can also 100% gaurantee you the parenting book would have flown clean over my head as well Kiri - Yesterday at 10:22 PM just funny you caught the blood thing as soon as we got the knife but this one was lost on you berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:22 PM im not good at sublety Kiri - Yesterday at 10:22 PM this was not subtle i'm sad he didn't find any of his porn berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:23 PM what does he even fap to dwam the people must know Kiri - Yesterday at 10:24 PM incidentally in case you didn't get this the hut was significant bc they conceived the child there berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:24 PM like i considered "lol they totally f***ed there" but i thought i was being juvenile Kiri - Yesterday at 10:25 PM i hate that dwam never gives an indicator when you're done searching an area berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:26 PM me too but i figured it out myself eventually theres only so many places to look so its a lot less of a problem than it was in curtain Kiri - Yesterday at 10:26 PM this ain't as bad as curtain yeah rip nick glad that happened oh well still gonna have payne i guess berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:32 PM "Her body was the only thing they seemed interested in." >context nick lookds oddly fat in that graphic clearly something went wrong wonder what Kiri - Yesterday at 10:38 PM looks more like he's just puffing his chest out okayyyyy i am lost now i hate your investigations dwam berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:42 PM i believe you present the drop of blood to gumshoe Kiri - Yesterday at 10:42 PM oh ok berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:42 PM and the stuff you found in greenwells house Kiri - Yesterday at 10:42 PM i presented greenwell's stuff yeah just didn't know the drop of blood oh wait tho i apparently didn't find anything in his office...? did the tickets thing not get added to the court record berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:43 PM no not in his office his garage Kiri - Yesterday at 10:43 PM yeah that was the stuff i presented it's just weird that nothing in his office seems to have gotten added berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:43 PM theres probably a reason for that i remember a lot of stuff in 6-5 seeming important but then wasnt ddded Kiri - Yesterday at 10:44 PM i mean there had to be a reason for examining the office tho ok well i did that... now what berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:45 PM and there was it just wasnt CR worthy at this point in time, anyway Kiri - Yesterday at 10:45 PM have you already advanced berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:45 PM im still trying to present s*** i showed greenwell the stuff from the garage too Kiri - Yesterday at 10:46 PM i repeat: i hate your investigations dwam berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:47 PM ui must have found everything theres absolutely no way i havent i just need to present stuff to gumshoe and greenwell i just dont know what Kiri - Yesterday at 10:47 PM well i'm gonna bathroom lemme know when you figure it out berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:53 PM YEP I FOUND IT PRESENT EMA TO GREENWELL Kiri - Yesterday at 10:54 PM ok resync when we hit the lobby again Kiri - Yesterday at 11:06 PM i really love this exchange between nick and eve on the subway berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:06 PM i love eve in general Kiri - Yesterday at 11:08 PM like that exchange had nothing to do with the case clearly but it felt like a very real conversation for these two people to just be having anyway and it gave so much depth to both of them i love moments like that berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:08 PM i wouldnt be so sure it has nothing to do with the case Kiri - Yesterday at 11:09 PM i don't see how it could have anything to do with it really berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:09 PM youd be surprised Kiri - Yesterday at 11:09 PM i could also not be berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:09 PM but you could be Kiri - Yesterday at 11:12 PM i see dwam is playing my ever-classic "exact familial resemblance" card actually i guess we had just kinda been assuming this entire time that lex died berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:13 PM more or less! theya ctually cover this a bit Kiri - Yesterday at 11:17 PM best badge present ever i'm still laughing about it berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:18 PM ..lex COULD be rasputin you know he couldnt die that was rasputins whole thing and uh i dont think ill be getting it hes about to leave Kiri - Yesterday at 11:19 PM it wasn't anything special anyway that's just also why it was perfect berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:20 PM ...well then.... lex could not possibly have less motive to kill victoria though greenwell absolutely but he is not the one who died Kiri - Yesterday at 11:20 PM yeah he has no reason to the only thing you coulda worked from is that he wanted to frame greenwell and that's out the window berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:21 PM see though eve is fantastic i love her Kiri - Yesterday at 11:21 PM shouldn't the psyche locks have caught greenwell's lies tho? i guess he just worded it particularly but berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:21 PM it doesnt really matter maybe it doesnt count if nick literally knows its bulls*** in fact thats probably exactly it! if nick already knows hes being lied to and already knows what the lie is the magatama probably thinks "ok buddy you got this" and doesnt kick in Kiri - Yesterday at 11:22 PM mayb berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:22 PM thatd make a lot of sense in universe and larry the dumbass is living proof of it basically all hes good for this is so confusing DWaM basically just pasted a poster on lex saying "lol i did it" and his motive could not possibly make less sense Kiri - Yesterday at 11:28 PM adam and eve are the twins victoria was carrying who have come back from the future of an alternate timeline where they survived berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:29 PM dwam wrote curtain im actually willing to accept this Kiri - Yesterday at 11:29 PM eve killed her mom and framed her dad out of revenge and adam is trying to avenge them playing for the other team to get his sister caught berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:30 PM that i will not accept eve is a perfect human who would never harm a fly and how actually dare you accuse her Kiri - Yesterday at 11:30 PM if you called eve a perfect human who would never harm a fly she would laugh in your face berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:30 PM then she can laugh idc im glad i amuse her Kiri - Yesterday at 11:32 PM can we plz get back to ema now yes thank you oh no i'm lost again actually maybe not berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:40 PM i have ideas i just need to confirm they are the right ones Kiri - Yesterday at 11:40 PM nope definitely lost i hate your investigations dwam berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:41 PM did you see adam again Kiri - Yesterday at 11:41 PM yeah berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:41 PM present locket to lucas Kiri - Yesterday at 11:43 PM okay lex is the biggest creep he even gaslighted her with the key thing jesus guess he did nothing to the child tho yeah she just had a miscarriage seems like ahhhh this makes a lot of sense now tho of course ema would hide that berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:46 PM regardless NOW i appear to be stuck Kiri - Yesterday at 11:46 PM i do find it quite interesting that nick figured that out on his own tho WITHOUT confirming via the psyche-locks directly... berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:47 PM begs the question of what thats for Kiri - Yesterday at 11:48 PM anyway ya me lost again gonna go dance around in the forest a while berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:48 PM this is why i like linear investigations Kiri - Yesterday at 11:48 PM same or at least just open-ended ones with better indicators about wtf to do i'm just waiting for nick to get attacked by rave the raven if that doesn't happen this was all for naught berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:50 PM thats it im peeking at the script Kiri - Yesterday at 11:53 PM find it? berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:54 PM THINK SO show lex to gumshoe i presented literally all the new evidence EXCEPT that Kiri - Yesterday at 11:55 PM holy s*** why wouldn't presenting any of the stuff you found in the office work for that too tho berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:55 PM because what youre going for is proposing the blood on the knife is his Kiri - Yesterday at 11:56 PM still dumb uh where to now then berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:59 PM did you go back to the WAA Kiri - Yesterday at 11:59 PM oh nah i will i keep f***in accidentally clicking onto the wrong path there's so many forest paths August 4, 2017 Kiri - Today at 12:00 AM i keep going in circles through them forgetting which is the correct one anyway that still just makes it obviously the blade from five years ago he was stabbed with also reminder to resync in lobby berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:02 AM obviously so we'll just have to nail him with something else Kiri - Today at 12:03 AM this is a BG from TQT just one old guy, eh... berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:09 AM but lex is clearly alive unless he actually DOES have an evil twin Kiri - Today at 12:09 AM i don't think that was the old guy in question berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:09 AM then who was it Kiri - Today at 12:09 AM idk but there was an old guy mentioned and an old guy now dead not true ema i have lucid dreamed before it was terrifying bc inception has programmed my mind to think that everything in my dream will kill me once i know i'm dreaming berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:13 AM im honestly disappointed you ruined the pregnancy thing for me Kiri - Today at 12:13 AM i adored the floor is lava scene makes it so much more tragic that ema lost her berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:13 AM i STILL would not have gotten it even after that conversation with lucas Kiri - Today at 12:14 AM you're something else victoria just became aware that she is a video game character well that was f***ing bizarre but i'm in the lobby now lemme know when you are berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:19 AM oh i... kind of assumed you were further ahead i just got to the first testimony Kiri - Today at 12:19 AM god dammiiiiiiit i said to resync here so many times berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:20 AM its not that much i will wait Kiri - Today at 12:20 AM ok berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:20 AM it kinda got pushed out of my mind i was so goddamn pleased to be done with that investigation my bad Kiri - Today at 12:20 AM that much is understandable eve testifying for lex is pretty great ok at the testiomny berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:27 AM eve doing literally anything at all is great anyway i told you it wouldnt take long okay i know thats probably true but theres no way in hell they can just -accept- that Kiri - Today at 12:28 AM the blood coagulation thing? berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:28 AM no the fact that the knife was preserved for five years Kiri - Today at 12:28 AM oh yeah it's iffy berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:29 AM really should have played up how bulls*** it was that thats an acceptable explanation byt he way lex is actually the biggest dumbass on the planet if he doesnt have a wire on this girl and telling her what to say Kiri - Today at 12:31 AM i'm pretty sure that's exactly what he's doing berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:31 AM just establishing Kiri - Today at 12:35 AM wait how does rumstrum's phone not tie him to the scene berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:36 AM just happened to have that particular app downloaded stalking that particular car bulls***, absolutley but hey if this is flying that can, too Kiri - Today at 12:37 AM i just don't understand why you'd even have that statement there if that wasn't the contradiction that's incredibly misleading okay THAT'S why it's there still silly berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:40 AM whys it there im having a hard time with this one Kiri - Today at 12:40 AM want answer? berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:40 AM yes Kiri - Today at 12:40 AM second set of tier tracks berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:42 AM why would you need to go to the mechanic for this go to the f***ing car wash Kiri - Today at 12:43 AM well payne is literally only in the case so that some really, REALLY stupid mistakes could be justified this contradiction is obvious thus this will probably be a multi y'know at some point we lost the prank call evidence berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:55 AM the police call replaces it, is my guess thats what the call was about so having the call was redundant Kiri - Today at 12:55 AM yeah probably berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:58 AM i like have an IDEA if he was the one who broke into the garage he could figure it out pretty easily but i dont know how to prove this Kiri - Today at 12:58 AM wait what are you on? berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:58 AM 2nd CE Kiri - Today at 12:59 AM you, never presented the phone? berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:59 AM i did it did not work do it yourself see what happens Kiri - Today at 1:00 AM like did you do the prove he was tracking someone bit, is that a dead end or something berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:00 AM i presented the phone and what happened was wright was all "check phone records pl0x" and eve was like "already did lol "nutthin honey" and nick was all FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU and then they got married Kiri - Today at 1:00 AM none of this happened berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:00 AM well all of this happened for me maybe i did it on the wrong statement Kiri - Today at 1:01 AM you present it on the statement where it's like, he couldn't have known about the meeting berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:01 AM okay thats what happene yes Kiri - Today at 1:05 AM btw the badge wound up being quite relevant indeed berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:10 AM (Secretary's kinda hot, though!) i concur Kiri - Today at 1:11 AM i'm beginning to worry i have stumbled into a bad end berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:12 AM i don't care we need to get his head on a pole anyway he fired eve he needs to fry yesterday last week -last year- "I think he intended to come back for me and dispose of my body later." I think this is the statement.... Kiri - Today at 1:20 AM woooooah all the sprites just died berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:21 AM oh that happens after too much saving and reloading reboot pywright Kiri - Today at 1:21 AM yeah i just did berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:21 AM all will be well in the world so uh lex's CE anything? Kiri - Today at 1:21 AM workin on it i'm really like not certain what statement to attack here, pretty much EVERYTHING looks like it could be something to me so i've been trying a buncha different things all over the place but no bites yet GOT IT want the answer? berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:25 AM yes the whole thing seems airtight so except the speculation Kiri - Today at 1:25 AM knife, he thought he'd killed me this was what i'd been trying to present for a while now lex is breaking way too easily here WELL we need some eva saving now methinks o- oh berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:34 AM yeaaaaahhhhhh Kiri - Today at 1:34 AM some undertale s*** oh i guess it was not even i thought that gotcha was there for. something i am confused now what do we do oh you just went offline berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:36 AM WAIT RELOAD my internet died remkad the ok you glt jr Kiri - Today at 1:36 AM i what berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:36 AM you got it Kiri - Today at 1:37 AM i did? do i just keep reloading until something else happens berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:37 AM you saw the gotcha. Kiri - Today at 1:37 AM yes i reloaded and the same thing happened did something different happen for you that is the third time i've done it and nothing different is happening still berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:38 AM i dont it then what the f*** did we miss Kiri - Today at 1:39 AM i walkthrough peaked i get it now listen to the recording on the gotcha berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:40 AM i feel dumb... why would that not be my first thought Kiri - Today at 1:41 AM that was really clever pretty heavy there she isssss honestly i think i know where this is going and it's absolutely insane if i'm right it's like... the only way it COULD be going as far as i can see berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:58 AM how DOES an anthro apologist wind up infected with government poison i dont get it berserkerbladerx - Today at 2:00 AM ah okay that is how an anthro apologist winds up infected with government poison Kiri - Today at 2:05 AM ahhhh that's why ema found the blood so odd so many people are on the stand lmao berserkerbladerx - Today at 2:12 AM lex is like one of the best fake real killers in a while it seemed so obvious Kiri - Today at 2:14 AM just got done with lucas this case is nuts NO NOT ANOTHER DAY OF INVESTIGATION I REFUSE just... anything but that ok this part as ema is really cool tho oh nooooo it turned into a real investigative segment why god ema has no court record maybe this won't be so bad berserkerbladerx - Today at 2:27 AM i think i just found out what adams real name is still working on eve and what the adam and eve relationship is there provided there is one but it feels absurd there wouldnt be actually... yeah.... dwam i hate you forever if im right... Kiri - Today at 2:30 AM F*** ema just relentlessly killed greenwell he deserves it tho also resync again once we get back in the courtroom berserkerbladerx - Today at 2:38 AM donnerhug rumstrum nova dwam surnames sure are sometimes i preferred moriarity Kiri - Today at 2:39 AM not quite zeta level but approaching it i really love how ema's investigative style shows just how s***ty nick is at it the lady gets stuff done berserkerbladerx - Today at 2:42 AM eh,, different ground to cover that being said i was off about adams name but im still susupicious about something Kiri - Today at 2:45 AM reminder to resync when we get back to trial berserkerbladerx - Today at 2:45 AM i am going to forget if i have metric f***tons of investigation to still go through just tell me when youre at the lobby and bulls*** Kiri - Today at 2:45 AM that's why i will keep reminding talking to adam now btw Kiri - Today at 3:02 AM oh boy thurston was a creep too berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:02 AM well thurston was a "b**** has what I want and I NEED" creep he didn't really give two s***s about the person who was attached to the thing he was after she just happened to be the one who had it Kiri - Today at 3:02 AM true glad thurston left a very convenient summary of his related actions to the case lying here ahhhh eve was his daughter berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:10 AM VICTORIA JUST IMPLIED RAVE THE RAVEN KILLED HER WE ARE NOT OUT OF THE WOODS YET Kiri - Today at 3:11 AM the info about the raven's been held back for so f***ing long at this point that i'm beliving that really might be all there is to it someone probably did set it off intentionally for this somehow at least tho berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:12 AM nobody set it loose rave the raven acted all on his own he is the true mastermind behind it all also are you tired at all yet or is it safe to drink monster and finish this Kiri - Today at 3:14 AM oh i'm tired but we're definitely finishing this this flashback scene with cognizant victoria is also amazing the lucas on-on-one redux may have been my favorite thing dwam's ever written holy s*** UGHHHHH that entire section was perfect beyond words it actually got me welling up i adore how her conversation with ema was near identical bc she was the only one she was ever truly able to be honest with also resync reminder oh goodness we gotta find it ourselves huh I TOLD YOU PEOPLE COULD BE AWARE THEY WERE DREAMING EMA i'm guessing it also works so that no matter which direction you go you eventually stumble into Plot makes the most sense anyway since we're in wacko world berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:37 AM yeah dont worry about the directions anything works dwam implies as much in the walkthrough speaking of which, may need to pull that up Kiri - Today at 3:38 AM for what berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:38 AM anyway im finally f***ing done you'll see... Kiri - Today at 3:38 AM okay will wait for me then playin this close to 4 AM is also v spooky i wonder if it'd still work if you took the directions that just made you constantly go back to where you were that'd be funny berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:45 AM it would work no matter what ill tell you right now dwam can be a d*** this is not the sort of flavor of d*** he is are you back in reality yet Kiri - Today at 3:49 AM yup, checkin up on how your perfect girl who'd never hurt a fly is doin berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:50 AM shes just worried and scared Kiri - Today at 3:51 AM she literally up and kills ema for telling her the truth i've been worried and scared before i have never done that we've created a time paradox berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:53 AM a damn fine one if i do say so myself it means there exists a world where eve got away with it since shes kind of obviously the killer now Kiri - Today at 3:54 AM can't wait to put her head on a pike anyway i've gotten ema killed enough walkthrough-a-go-go berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:54 AM which means there exists the potential for me to tap into this timeline, become the CEO of my own company, and hire her as MY secretary since shes currently unemployed itll be my wish if i find the key to el dorado Kiri - Today at 3:55 AM she'd kill you too berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:55 AM not if i played my cards right and if i didnt then oh well i would die with no regrets also i would already be dead you don't get your el dorado wish until you die Kiri - Today at 3:56 AM i mean you would have to live for your wish to come true to so how does any of this work at all berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:56 AM not necessarily i would just need to find the key to el dorado before i died Kiri - Today at 3:56 AM yes but. how does she be your secretary if you is dead berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:57 AM because i can wish for whatever i want in el dorado Kiri - Today at 3:57 AM then she would kill you again berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:57 AM even if that wish defies logic and transcends the realm between the living and the dead nah you cant kill the dead i think thats a rule Kiri - Today at 3:57 AM i do not think that's how it works berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:57 AM then you are thinking too hard about it Kiri - Today at 3:57 AM with a wish you would have to be reborn in some capacity into a different plane of existence no less so whether you died in another wouldn't matter berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:58 AM -this is my el dorado wish and you can't make me not want it- Kiri - Today at 3:58 AM you can have it i'm just sayin she would still kill you berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:59 AM AND I WOULD DIE A HAPPY MAN Kiri - Today at 4:03 AM okay i made it out alive not in court yet tho berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:03 AM you just go to the lobby see shes a nice girl you just have to tell her what she wants to hear Kiri - Today at 4:03 AM no she is not berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:03 AM yes she is you will not slander my secretary in such a way Kiri - Today at 4:03 AM there are a hundred different paths in there in which she murders you in cold blood she is a wretched human being and i can't wait to throw her in the slammer berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:04 AM im going to throw YOU in the slammer if you continue to harass my staff Kiri - Today at 4:04 AM i do love that you get out of it by convincing her that you've pinned the wrong culprit conclusively tho that was clever A'IGHT in the lobby f***ing hell this is one long case berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:09 AM the angry dragon was longer Kiri - Today at 4:09 AM was it really? it's gotta be close berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:09 AM are you forgetting just how ridiculous that case was this literally only feels longer because we got stuck a few times Kiri - Today at 4:10 AM maybe GOD i love ema and especially love watching her rip lucas and lex new ones i really hope this isn't a long confrontation bc i am dying ove here this feels longer bc we played dragon's in two sessions that's why berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:19 AM yeah but we got 90% of dragon in the first go Kiri - Today at 4:19 AM i think this has to be about 90% of dragon's length berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:19 AM im not saying this isnt a long case the angry dragon was just longer Kiri - Today at 4:19 AM world's least conventional CE theme oh god it just occurred to me that SHE was hiding in the trunk the whole time that's why it had to be emptied out i shoulda thought of that forever ago berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:25 AM well she only came into play recently and also greenwells car doesnt work on any of those statements Kiri - Today at 4:25 AM yeah i just mean the possibility that the killer did that in general berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:25 AM and thats the piece of evidence youd think of Kiri - Today at 4:25 AM yeah i don't think you point it out here it just occurred to me thinking about in general how she could have gotten there i wish i could just point out she was an FBI agent berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:26 AM its easier than that i knew i was onto something but novas phone Kiri - Today at 4:27 AM oh i tried that wrong statement i guess berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:27 AM you tried it on the wrong statement the first Kiri - Today at 4:27 AM yeah there we go oh god i am not pressing that f*** dwam forever if presses are required here i already know the solution to this i just hope i can present it already what the f*** is up with all the random leg injuries also we STILL don't know what the significance of victoria's was berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:31 AM well when i speculated it might be connected i presumed it was, you know around the time she actually died five years later its probably healed by now Kiri - Today at 4:31 AM yeah but then like why was it brought up so much even made note to show her injuring it again in mystic cave zone berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:31 AM well obviously dwam isa huge spongebob mark Kiri - Today at 4:33 AM ok no you can present this immediately thank god berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:33 AM im still pressing everything Kiri - Today at 4:33 AM but knowing dwam this CE will have like 47 contradictions in it berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:33 AM it goes against my duty not to Kiri - Today at 4:33 AM i am just too tired i love this case a lot but right now i love sleep more i have to work today wow i can't believe a testimony as long as that one really only had the one glaringly apparent contradiction i think i might need to press this next one dwammit but it's shorter so whatever i'm also stuck af on it berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:46 AM im just going to get you started off rumstrums phone, statement 3 Kiri - Today at 4:48 AM thank berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:48 AM admit i walkthroughd that one but Kiri - Today at 4:48 AM idc at this point f***ing love btw that to the entire FBI it was this huge mystery as to which FBI agent could have possibly been the one to give mr. thurston classified info and didn't think that maybe just MAYBE his daughter who HAPPENS TO BE AN FBI AGENT could potentially be worth looking into and in fact thought she would be the ideal counter-mole incredible berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:58 AM aa police applies to FBI as well berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:00 AM also see being dead means you cannot die again it does in fact work this way you owe me five dollars Kiri - Today at 5:00 AM this is before her wish has been granted if her wish brings her life back then she can lose it once more uh do you got this one berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:06 AM i just got there give me a second police call statement 2 Kiri - Today at 5:09 AM thank i would never have even given statement 2 a second look now he's protecting her it never ends EVE YOU JUST CONFESSED YOU PLANTED LISTENING DEVICES UNDER OATH berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:19 AM statement 2 Kiri - Today at 5:19 AM oh i already got it this one was obvious berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:19 AM fingerprint not to me but my brains shut down Kiri - Today at 5:23 AM got the next one too ty for making these easy dwam keep it that way rave the raven's moment finally come to roost eve's counter-arguments are pathetic lmao berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:28 AM shes sort of out of room to stand on spoiler alert this is the last one Kiri - Today at 5:31 AM thank god ema confirmed the blood hooray i feel bad that the commentary for the end is so sparse bc we're both dead for the record you were right tho i was in fact surprised berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:47 AM i told you not to dismiss it so quickly Kiri - Today at 5:48 AM rip pywright berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:48 AM well novas body, statement 7 if you saved... Kiri - Today at 5:48 AM oh i already got that by walkthrough peaking (y) berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:49 AM i dont think either of us care about that anymire Kiri - Today at 5:56 AM i knew it was gonna be the child berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:56 AM what child when was ther eveer a child involved in this case Kiri - Today at 5:57 AM You'll get it berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:57 AM i mean i know i will it was a joke Kiri - Today at 5:57 AM Oh I thought you had seriously forgotten again tbh berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:58 AM you cant really say i forgot it i didnt forget anything it all went mach five over my head Kiri - Today at 6:00 AM Anyway I'm not sure what I'm gonna do with the review for this one berserkerbladerx - Today at 6:01 AM this kind of like Kiri - Today at 6:01 AM This was like, easily my favorite dwam case ever berserkerbladerx - Today at 6:01 AM the ZTD baby thing except satisfying Kiri - Today at 6:01 AM It's gonna be hard to be critical about anything other than dunking on how s***ty the investigations were I'll need to let it settle anyway i am gonna do that by going the h*ck to sleep now
Well, this was certainly a nice thing to wake up to.
I'm glad to see you (I'm hoping both?) enjoyed my investigation segments the case as much as you did! The logs were pretty funny to go through, too. (The sudden and random arguing was honestly the best part of it, forget all that other case-related nonsense.)
I'm looking forward to the review! Once again, thanks for playing!
Oh, also
Spoiler : Case spoilerz :
The inn scene "replay" was probably my favorite to write, so I'm happy you enjoyed it as much as you did.
Excellent job, DWaM! Just finished it, and I really liked how your writing brought such complex characters to life.
A quick question about the ending:
Spoiler : :
After the door is opened and before the fade-to-black, the sound of a baby crying is head. Is it is to metaphorically symbolize that Victoria's 'wish' to El Dorado is to see her child that was never born?
"Ellery is merely indulging in his favorite game of ratiocination. He doesn't know where the papers are any more than you do. he's guessing....in detective literature," he added with a sad smile, "They call it the 'art of deduction."
