A few notes:
* You absolutely need the newest version of PyWright (version 0.989, included with Conflict of Interest), otherwise the user interface will not work properly!
* There is a strange and inconsistent bug that has been reported in which characters suddenly disappear altogether from court sections. It usually happens when you save and reload too often. To fix this, simply restart PyWright and load at an earlier save.
* There is an examine spot during the investigation seemingly hidden behind the 'Back' button. Unfortunately, there's not much I could do there. It's still fairly visible on the top screen, though, so you should be able to get through the section without much issue.
* Which also brings me to another point -- please play in dual screen. Mainly for some interface details.
Premise
Taking place several months after the events of Spirit of Justice, Phoenix finds himself alone when he takes a rather strange -- and extremely hopeless case. With an uncooperative defendant, a staggering amount of evidence supporting the police's case, and a prosecutor that clearly has it in for him, how will Phoenix turn things around? Is there even any room for doubt?
Where does the truth lie?
In the hearts of the key players, all with their own secrets and motives?
Between the trees of the dense forest, the scene of a horrific murder?
Or perhaps, in the mythical city of gold that seems to be the connecting factor between the strange circumstances of the case -- El Dorado?
_________________________
While this case does take place after SoJ, it's worth noting that this case contains practically no spoilers for the story of that game. In total, it only features a handful of references.
Screenshots
Spoiler : Possible Spoilers :
Credits
Spoiler : Credits (Spoilers for the entire case!) :
Written by
DWaM
Sprites by
Sligneris: New Phoenix Sprites
FenrirDarkWolf: Young Ema, Lucas Greenwell
Ceres: Lex Rumstrum
DragonTrainer Victoria Nova
Hesseldahl SoJ Ema (Animated by ApolloGrimoire), Front Phoenix Sprites (Animated by ApolloGrimoire), Courtroom 'Mini' Sprite
SuperAj3: 'Eve'
Silver Glas: 'Adam'
Gloriously tested by
Spyromed
kwando1313
hershel_layton
CoastertheDimwitt (Part 1 Only)
Other Music used
Opening ~ A Need for Your Death is: Helsey - Control (Instrumental)
Memories ~ Better Times is: Hotel Dusk - Dead Stare
Memories ~ Hopeful Times is: Hotel Dusk - Sunset Men
Memories ~ Legend of Nobody is: Dark Souls 3 - Character Creation
Investigation ~ Gloomy Scenery is: G-Senjou no Maou - Doubt
Investigation ~ Deep in the Forest is: Chase: Cold Case Investigations - Track 1
Investigation ~ Moving Along is: Ever 17 - Kopfsprung
Investigation ~ Getting Your Hands Dirty is: Killer 7 - Back to the Light
Investigation ~ Dark Resolution is: Kara no Shoujo 2 - Dark Thread
Investigation ~ Confronting The Culprit is: Hotel Dusk - Resolution
Eve ~ Her Client's Will is: Killer7 - White Sugar
Lex Rumstrum ~ The Man Who Sees All is: No More Heroes - K-Entertainment
Adam ~ Remember Me Not is: Ever17 - Dritterstock
Saving The Case With A Broken Tail Light is: Touhou 14 - Shining Needle Castle Sinking in the Air
The Hobo's Favorite Melody is: Anastasia - One Upon a December
Victoria's Ascent is: Umineko no naku koro ni - One
Victoria's Rebellion is: Umineko Music Box Blue - Tsubasa
Last Stand is: Umineko Music Box Blue - Black Knight
End Credits song is: Of Monsters and Men - Empire
Walkthrough
(One is included in the game files, but you for extra convenience, I've included one here, as well)
Spoiler : Massive spoilers, obviously :
A TURNABOUT TO EL DORADO -- WALKTHROUGH
PROLOGUE
Go through all three options
PART 1 -- INVESTIGATION
Exhaust all talk options
Move -> Detention Center
Exhaust all talk options
Move -> City Outskirts
Examine -> Badge and Car
Go through all options
Examine -> The knife, the bloodstain (it's hidden behind the back button, but you can see it on the upper screen), the inside of the hut and the vines
Exhaust all talk options
Move -> Path to Hut
Move -> City Outskirts
Move -> Detention Center
Exhaust all talk options
Move -> Wright Anything Agency
Exhaust all talk options
PART 2 -- TRIAL
-- Facts of the Case --
Press Statement 1 -> Answer 'Yes' (Statement 1-1 Revealed)
Present 'The Army of Starts' on Statement 1-1
Present Tire Tracks (Statement 1-1 Changed)
Present Nova's Body on Statement 1-1
Present the Knife
-- How I Caught Him --
Press Statements 2, 3, 5, 6
Present Car on Statement 2
Answer 'It wasn't the same car'
Answer 'To get Gumshoe's attention'
Present Nova's Body OR The Car
Answer 'Where the car was found'
-- Common Sense --
Press Statement 2
Present Prank Call on Statement 3
Present Nearby Accident on Statement 5
-- A Sinister Atmosphere --
Press Statement 2
Present Victoria's Profile on Statement 5
Present the Autopsy Report
Present the Badge
Present Pool of Blood on Statement 2
-- The Attacker --
Present the Knife on Statement 3
Present the Knife
Examine -> The traces of fire and the desk
Move -> Greenwell's Office
Examine -> Computer, photo on the wall, bookshelf to the left and empty cases to the right
Move -> Greenwell's Garage -> Detention Center
Present -> Traces of fire (and fingerprint, optionally)
Move -> Path to Hut
Examine -> Traces of blood
Move -> Forest Path
Present -> Drop of Blood
Move -> Path to Hut -> City Outskirts -> Wright Anything Agency
Exhaust all talk options
Examine -> The window, the desk, the books/files, and Eve
Move -> Ema's Apartment
Examine -> Desk and Bed
Move -> City Outkirts -> Ravenview Forest -> Forest Path
Present Lex's Profile
Move -> Path to Hut -> City Outskirts -> Detention Center
Talk -> New Option
Present -> Locket
Answer 'Nova was living with her'
Move -> Wright Anything Agency
PART 4 -- TRIAL
-- A Mistake, One Way or Another --
Present Second Set of Tire Tracks on Statement 1
Present Nearby Accident
-- Naive Reasoning --
(OPTIONAL) Present Rumstrum's Phone on Statement 2
Present Rumstrum's Phone on Statement 4
Present the Badge
Present Nova's Police Report
-- Not What You Think --
Press Statement 5
Present the Knife on Statement 5
To get through this next section -> Simply listen to the recording yourself before you get a game over
-- Never Suicide --
Press Statement 1 -> Answer 'The Expedition'
Press Statement 3 -> Answer 'Hang on a moment'
Present Book on Toxins (Statement 3-1 Revealed)
Present The Newspaper on Statement 3-1
Present the Autopsy Report
-- Twisted Words --
Press All Statements
PART 5 -- INVESTIGATION
Examine -> Bed and desk
Move -> Detention Center
Exhaust all talk options
Move -> Rubin Pharmaceuticals
Exhaust all talk options
Move -> City Outskirts -> Crime(?) Scene
Exhaust all talk options
Move -> Thurston's Home
Examine -> Desk
Go through all three options
Move around randomly until the section ends
-- Interrogation --
Answer either
Hide the truth
Answer honestly
Ask a question
'Why are you doing this to me?'
Bluff
'We did meet, though'
Refuse to answer
Insist that it is
'It's sensitive information'
'You're worried for your father'
Rumstrum
PART 6 -- TRIAL
-- A Matter Of Knowledge --
Present Nova's Phone on Statement 1
-- Impossible Ascent --
Present the Car on Statement 11
Answer 'The trunk'
-- Nothing To Hide, Not Even Me --
Present the badge OR Rumstrum's Phone on Statement 3
Present the Pool of Blood
Answer 'It isn't'
Present the Visitor's List
Present Eve's Profile
Present FBI Investigation
Present Adam's Profile
-- Thurston --
Present Police Call on Statement 2
-- Tying To Scenes --
Present Fingerprint on Statement 2
Present Traces of Fire
-- Dead On Arrival --
Present the Scream on Statement 4
Answer 'Was unconscious'
Present the Brochure
Present Drop of Blood
-- The Dream of El Dorado --
Present Nova's Body on Statement 7
Present Nova's Locket
A TURNABOUT TO EL DORADO -- END
Ace Attorney / Gyakuten Saiban is property of Capcom. This fan game is not affiliated with Capcom in any way and is entirely by and for fans.
Last edited by DWaM on Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:56 am, edited 7 times in total.
Well, development will probably take a longer hiatus after this first part. I sped this initial section now because I found myself at a convenient time to do so, dass all.
A couple of notes:
* You absolutely need the newest version of PyWright (version 0.989, included with Conflict of Interest), otherwise the user interface will not work properly!
* Music does not loop. I can't exactly claim it's intentional -- it's just something I honestly have no skill, time or effort to do. If anyone wants to do it, they are welcome to, of course. But just wanted to point out it's not a bug.
* There is a strange and inconsistent bug that has been reported in which characters suddenly disappear altogether from court sections. To fix this, simply reload from an earlier save, before experiencing the issue, and that should fix it. Save often just in case, though!
* There is an examine spot during the investigation seemingly hidden behind the 'Back' button. Unfortunately, there's not much I could do there. It's still fairly visible on the top screen, though, so you should be able to get through the section without much issue.
* Which also brings me to another point -- please play in dual screen. Mainly for some interface details.
The main post has also been updated with the credits for this part.
For those of you who aren't aware of the CR thread -- that one's been updated quite a bit more than this one. Basically, the plan for parts to be released individually was scrapped, and I decided to release parts 2 and 3 together when they're done.
And, well, they're done and currently in beta-testing.
I want to thank everyone who helped me in terms of art, music, and beta-testing to see it through. I'm very happy with the final product, and I hope you will be, as well.
Notes regarding this part are pretty much the same as the last part. The only thing I have to add is that, if you've already played Part 1, to look for 'IF YOU'VE ALREADY PLAYED PART 1' text file in the game files and edit the intro file accordingly to move onto the remaining part. But you already know the drill from Contempt of Court / Conflict of Interest at this point, I imagine.
The log between Blader and I as promised. I think you can figure out which is which --
Spoiler : this has spoilers for like, most of dwam's cases. including this one obviously :
Kiri - Yesterday at 5:42 PM
ok you ready to do this?
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:43 PM
yes
Kiri - Yesterday at 5:43 PM
then let's GO
i've personally been terrified ema is the killer ever since noticing she was in the header
also F*** i can't type in discord without freezing pywright i forgot
that's gonna be annoying
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:44 PM
phone?
Kiri - Yesterday at 5:44 PM
good idea
Gonna be slower this way but at least the log will have funnier typos probably
I've already had enough of red over here
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:46 PM
isnt three people a little small for an expedition
Kiri - Yesterday at 5:46 PM
Not in fiction
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:47 PM
why do i already feel this ends up like scapegoat's murder
Kiri - Yesterday at 5:47 PM
Hello randomly glasses-less ema
What an oddly conspicuous edit
Ema is definitely either the murderer or victim
I am talking to her first
i think dwam's entire career has been figuring out what characters he hasn't made a grimdark version of yet
so i'm just inclined to be immediately suspicious of anybody he hasn't done that to yet
red boy now
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:54 PM
victoria nova
what a silly name
Kiri - Yesterday at 5:55 PM
Sounds very superhero
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:55 PM
the way he's writing ema seems really weird
Kiri - Yesterday at 5:55 PM
Yeah it is
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:55 PM
i have to assume its intentional
Kiri - Yesterday at 5:55 PM
She isn't much like herself
Given that this is post SoJ anyway
She seems very amateurish
props to dwam for writing in a way that the character names all get introduced naturally in dialogue also
i hate it when it's done where people will just randomly say someone's full name in their first scene with them or whatever for the sake of it it's really inorganic
he did it well here tho
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:57 PM
i mean
apart from "Ms. Nova" i only see everyones first name
Kiri - Yesterday at 5:57 PM
well yeah but we don't need to know their last names
for now anyway
important thing is just having something to call them
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:58 PM
using first names just, really doesnt seem hard
Kiri - Yesterday at 5:58 PM
well it is when you realize how little you'll actually say someone's name in one on one conversation
a lot of things f*** this up and will just tack it on once and never again
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 5:59 PM
i strongly suspect victoria nova is the one who dies actually
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:00 PM
in that case i'll call dwam a ripoff for killing the protagonist in the first part of the case
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:00 PM
this leg injury they keep harping on seems very useful to a mystery writer
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:01 PM
Onwards to luthor
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:06 PM
i love dwam
we go straight from a really dramtic situation
to this s***
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:07 PM
Fell a bit behind there just now finished the last convo
Jesus that scream
Oh I was expecting this to be a joke based on your comment but I guess this was actually the dramatic situation
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:10 PM
i am
slightly ahead
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:12 PM
Well this sure is
Anyway thankfully ema seems TOO obvious by process of elimination here so I'm leaning away from her
But who knows
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:13 PM
being ahead of you
i have news
she just lept from "being written strangely" to now "blatantly f***ing suspicious"
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:14 PM
She has her glasses again
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:14 PM
...actually when i think about it this MAY have some measure of justification but i kinda think its bull but ill run it by you anyway
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:15 PM
Something is definitely up with her in any case
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:15 PM
but yeah like
she goes from being all shy and timid to now being her usual self completely normal in front of nick
you can argue its because shes known nick for years and is comfortable around him
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:16 PM
i think there's two emas
there is a REASON for this glasses s***
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:16 PM
but i still dont really like that bhecause shes not portrayed as shy around new people
even when there's a task shes unfamiliar with ahead
but while i do think you can interpert the charcter as an introverted nerd it just seems really really weird to do that
but all of this probably does mean something0
do you think it means lana
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:17 PM
i was considering lana yeah
we'll see
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:17 PM
also
"The victim was Victoria Nova, an anthropoligist."
i knew that leg injury was too tasty to just ignore
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:17 PM
f***ing ripoff
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:17 PM
and also, an anthropologist
an anthroapologist
thats why the name is so ridioculous
shes a furry
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:18 PM
the pywright talky soundbyte is starting to irritate me
it's got a weird grating quality to it
maybe it's just with this music
hm wait actually
this makes the most sense if the first part of the case was a flashback
it obviously had to be, this seems to be a different case entirely now
that could justify ema having different behavior now since at the start she was acting much more like teenage ema
still sus tho
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:21 PM
well wouldnt he be using the younger sprites
i am wondering how far apart these murders are
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:21 PM
i don't think she was THAT much younger
just younger enough to not have gone through her disillusionment yet
tho she did always have the glasses
even when she was a teen
so that's still notable
i am a fan of the nick/ema investigation team nonetheless
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:23 PM
four years apparantly
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:23 PM
there we go
ok to the DC now
(also we didn't get to actually experience the protagonist's moment of death for ourselves so i can't call dwam a ripoff i guess.................)
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:29 PM
and i wouldnt go as far to call victoria a protagonist anyway
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:29 PM
yeah we didn't play as her long enough
i do suspect we'll get more flashbacks as her tho
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:29 PM
this being said i'm pretty sure ema just metacleared herself
oh ok
five years ago
four was a guess based ona talk topici think youre reading now
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:30 PM
yeah i gotcha
this man is worst defendant
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:33 PM
whats the fun in a good one who cooperates
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:36 PM
what was ema's metaclear incidentally
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:36 PM
lucas greenwell himself
were ema responsible for the killing she could have simply said "ok nick f*** this asshole lets go"
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:37 PM
nah i don't buy that
there could definitely still be reasons for her to do it
i'm only finding her more suspicious now that she opened up about the expedition five years ago but still isn't saying a thing about the murder back then
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:37 PM
well theres really no obvious benefit at all when you could simply throw him under the bus and be done with it
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:37 PM
why would the benefit be obvious
this is dwam
i do feel we're at least gonna get a trucy in dragon's style confrontation with ema in this case bare minimum even if she's not the killer
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:44 PM
well case closed
tell me when you get the brochure
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:44 PM
ema making sure she's the only one who touches anything is suspicious as F***
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:44 PM
i just solved EVERYTHING
but anyway ikr maybe nick wants to touch some genitals too
who the f*** are you to deny him that lady
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:48 PM
incidentally ema could totally just be making up that she gave this to victoria at all
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:49 PM
why would she want that connected to her
im just doubting emas involvement in this completely
she is painting way too many targets on herself if shes the damn killer
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:50 PM
that's the one thing yeah there's way too much dirt on her already at this point
soooo many lines of dialogue are standing out at me tho that feel like things i'm not supposed to be noticing yet
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:51 PM
i completely refuse to believe any killer would get themselves this involved in a case
even if that killer was hazama
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:55 PM
naturally we will be resyncing for the next part
i got way too f***ing behind here sorry about that
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:55 PM
did you get the brochure yet
Kiri - Yesterday at 6:55 PM
gumshoe just showed up
dwam is also using so many bgs in this i used in turnabout of nowhere
he's a ripoff even tho he never played that and had no way to
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 6:58 PM
i dont recognize any of them
but that was forever ago
Kiri - Yesterday at 7:01 PM
all right got the brochure
so what's the word on it
kay reference is standing out at me
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:02 PM
ok
have a look inside
rave the raven killed victoria with his beak
carried her off to greenwells car
opened it
stuffed her inside
then slammed it shut with his body weight and flew off intot he night
having gotten off scot free with murder
case closed gg go watch the g1 or something
Kiri - Yesterday at 7:03 PM
ah you're right
too bad there wasn't a new show today so i guess i'll just keep playing anyway even tho you solved it
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:06 PM
okay though but in seriousness
i actually did notice something HUGE but you havent found it yet
inform me when you find the murder weapon
Kiri - Yesterday at 7:11 PM
got it(edited)
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:11 PM
okay
you will notice one VERY important clarification being left out of the knife description
nowhere is it stated that is victoria's blood
soooo
i'm going with, it's lex's
Kiri - Yesterday at 7:12 PM
oh yup you are absolutely right
lucas never bothered to clean the thing in the last five years then
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:13 PM
of course he didnt
Kiri - Yesterday at 7:15 PM
theory: ema killed lex and is being blackmailed into taking this case for lucas now who knows she did it?
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:16 PM
theres a number of things i dont really like about that but it is possible
also
if the knife hasnt had the blood cleaned off it
why would the fingerprints been taken care of
i feel its reasonable to say lucas killed lex for whatever reason, likely with what the introduction was telling us
Kiri - Yesterday at 7:17 PM
they wouldn't be, they'd just be covered up by lucas now since he took it home
but yeah it's not impossible he was actually responsible there
glad gumshoe carries around a f***ing landline phone with him still
that's not even out of character
the way ema's talking to lucas makes me rescind my accomplice theory at least
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:28 PM
can confirm there are more scenes as victoria by the way
Kiri - Yesterday at 7:32 PM
i did love the detail that nick knows how to say "we are extremely poor" in 57 different languages
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:32 PM
so get a load of this ladys name
Kiri - Yesterday at 7:32 PM
we got adam and eve up in heah
i'm glad wright didn't even have to think about whether he'd take the money or not for more than a second
anyway 100% ema is not the killer
the moment nick starts finding her behavior openly suspicious himself that's out the window
she could still be involved in lex's murder somehow but absolutely not this one
victoria now
(incidentally if ema was responsible for lex's death in some capacity, which is what put victoria in an institution for all these years, that would make her want to stay close to her to make up for what she did)
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:45 PM
if ema IS the killer she's just genuinely the worst of all time
frank sahwit knew how to be less suspiciouis
Kiri - Yesterday at 7:45 PM
well she's not the killer
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:45 PM
ik
im simply saying shes the worst one of all time if she is
Kiri - Yesterday at 7:46 PM
woah did you not stop before going into court or did you
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:46 PM
im just d***ing around in the lobby
Kiri - Yesterday at 7:46 PM
oh ok
give me one second then, bathroom
i just got in the lobby
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:47 PM
"If your body doesn't arive in 30 minutes, it's free!"
almost sounds like hes a prostitute
i guess the pizzas came with extra sausage
Kiri - Yesterday at 7:52 PM
ok sorry about that
let's keep going now
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:52 PM
yes yes sausage as a d*** joke for pizza boys is done to death but come on there was a legitimate opening there
so whos the prostitutor
place your bets now
Kiri - Yesterday at 7:54 PM
all in on gaspen
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:56 PM
only two locks
the secret couldnt have been THAT huge
Kiri - Yesterday at 7:56 PM
yeah she implied that it was kind of a small thing
but it's clearly more important than she thinks
i was close
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:58 PM
uh
wait
WAS that winston in khura'in
Kiri - Yesterday at 7:58 PM
no
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:58 PM
i thought it was gaspen
Kiri - Yesterday at 7:58 PM
it was
it's a joke
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 7:58 PM
oh
yeah
ok
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:00 PM
i hope to god payne lasts for a grand total of one cross examination
like platinum
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:01 PM
i hope payne is the killer
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:01 PM
he did make the judge the killer
nothings sacred anymore
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:01 PM
most of the people in this case have been killers in dwam's other cases
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:02 PM
father was an "everybody did it!" kind of deal right
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:02 PM
yeah
done pressing
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:09 PM
you see it right
this ones easy
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:10 PM
think so
yup
i get what the contradiction is supposed to be here but i don't really know how to present it
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:17 PM
which one
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:17 PM
after you get gumshoe's theory that he drove her there
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:17 PM
nova's body
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:18 PM
thank
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:21 PM
ew
payne thats pretty gross
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:22 PM
winston is far too competent
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:22 PM
necrophilia made him stronger
CE2 is....
odd
i feel like the biggest thing here is what happened to the surgical mask and why it was never mentioned earlier
but theres nothing really to work with
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:33 PM
yeah it's the obvious point of interest
i have a couple of ideas but they're iffy
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:34 PM
gumshoes shopping list is the surgical mask
idk
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:35 PM
nope they weren't correct
i thought i could point out either that he might have been wearing it due to extended exposure to army of stars or that it might actually be the scarf around his neck pulled up
but no dice
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:37 PM
tempted to peek at the script
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:37 PM
no
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:40 PM
then im brute forcing it because i have no f***ing clue what im supposed to do here
oh wow
that actually worked pretty fast
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:40 PM
whatcha got
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:40 PM
OH
I actually thought this was weird but like
ok
its a press and present thing
greenwell's car on statement 2
after youve pressed it
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:42 PM
okay yeah i just didn't consider the possibility of a press present
"(Sure, I've got nothing, but that's never stopped me before!)"
AA in a nutshell
ok how could gumshoe have not noticed that tho
oh okay that's fair
i'm glad someone finally put all these car BGs to use i'd been trying to for years
i mean i did use some of them in nowhere but
dwam's using em way better than i did
allegro time
imnediately obviosu contradiction
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:52 PM
issue number two correct
i imagine we need to debunk all three
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:52 PM
eeyup
but possibly we might yeah
let's see
yep
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:53 PM
oh s***
i have
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:53 PM
all right then
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:53 PM
two out of three solved!
i just dont know about issue number 1
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:54 PM
what's 3
i think i have it just wanna make sure
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:54 PM
nearbya ccident
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:54 PM
yup
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:54 PM
im 95% confident
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:54 PM
oh no it was not
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:54 PM
...s***
no i guess it couldnt be.....
you would still need to leave the pristine car there
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:55 PM
i also thought that's what it was gonna be so eh
THAT FAIL CONVO THO OMG
ok let's try pressing then
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:55 PM
i already pressed everything
oh no
it IS the nearby accident
you presentedit on the wrong statement
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:56 PM
oh
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 8:56 PM
you present it at "I would have seen that car driving away!"
Kiri - Yesterday at 8:56 PM
dwammit
ema better tell us what's up now
also weird having a case with no assistant whatsoever i just realized
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
wait f***ing, seriously nick?
that's total bulls***
just don't even bring it up in the first place then if we're gonna delay it this needlessly long
how convenient that this was NINE MONTHS before the expedition...
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:07 PM
idol worship
could be why ema seemed so weird around victoria and then not around nick
yeah definitely comes off as an idol worship deal
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:09 PM
yeah i can see that
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:10 PM
that being said, possibly hiding the asylum thing to protect her reputation
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:10 PM
that's just silly
protecting her reputation from who
everybody already knew
except nick
i don't think keeping her reputation up to someone who didn't know her is a priority she would have
i do really like how the flashbacks have been integrated so far
and they've all been really good scenes of character-building
this is a problem i've had before too, ESPECIALLY in TRev, but it is pretty lame when you have an entire trial part that's just. completely pointless
oh right nick knows he's telling the truth now
...either that or he knows he's lying
nope truth
is there a way to save in pywright btw
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:23 PM
bork lazer's finishing manuver
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:24 PM
thank
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:25 PM
enpty yandere mastermind athena put victoria in the trunk and also killed him because jealousy
idfk
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:28 PM
you still on this CE?
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:28 PM
oh
ohhhh boy
OHHHHH boy
pywright f***ed itself though hang on
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:28 PM
o
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:29 PM
its fine i literally just saved
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:29 PM
i don't have this one tho
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:29 PM
ok
as implie
the last statement is what you want to focus on
i pose the question to you
name all the people who could have put victoria in the trunk
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:30 PM
uh i mean, only one person was there
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:30 PM
was there really
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:30 PM
there was probably another so that opens it up to potentially being anyone
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:30 PM
-all- of the people who could have done it
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:30 PM
gumshoe could have
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:31 PM
their profile is in the court record
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:32 PM
okay there
wait what there's more tho
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:35 PM
seems that way
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:35 PM
you catching the blood thing early does take away a lot of the tension here
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:35 PM
it looks like we're meant to drop the bombshell about the knife
but when
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:36 PM
got #2
think it's gonna happen here
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:37 PM
wait whats the second contradiction then
what must i do
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:37 PM
pool of blood
on statement about not seeing anyone in the hut
....oh
well i know where this is going anyway
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:40 PM
yandere athena
is it going to yandere athena
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:41 PM
no it's rave the raven
we figured this out ages ago remember
actually i... think that might be exactly where this was going
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:41 PM
OMFG
i
I THINK SO TOO
he does claim its a man but
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:44 PM
we'll see
and theeeeere it is
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:46 PM
did i ace that s*** or WHAT
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:46 PM
you did good
i will also totally excuse this on account of the investigation team being payne and gumshoe
this is just fair game for them to make a mistake like this
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:47 PM
tbh
payne being as competent as he is is ooc enough
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:47 PM
true
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:49 PM
this should really get him kicked off the trial
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:50 PM
i imagine it will
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:50 PM
i do not want to play against goddamn payne unless youre doing something with his character
and i dont think dwam is that desperate yet
Kiri - Yesterday at 9:57 PM
in part 3 now
this is the first time dwam's ever done a second investigation before innit
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 9:59 PM
wright playing piano actually properly is pretty f***ing badass
like for the first time in years i like something about the man in the suit
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:00 PM
also what do you mean
dragon had two
curtain probably did too
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:00 PM
curtain didn't and i forgot dragon's i guess
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:00 PM
f*** a duck dragon probably had three
that case was completely normal
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:01 PM
hittin up the DC
i imagine ema will be the bookend(edited)
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:02 PM
wright for pretending to play piano that was classy as f***
thats something the games need to do
if phoenix must stay alive at least make him a better character
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:02 PM
i don't think making him better at playing piano will do that
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:03 PM
i do
thats some classy sherlock holmes bulls*** its great
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:03 PM
phoenix wright is not sherlock holmes
nor should he be
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:03 PM
no bu8t he should be a better piano player
its badass and makes sense IC and you are not going to change my mind on that
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:04 PM
i mean it objectively doesn't make sense IC given that IC he is a terrible piano player
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:04 PM
he was a bad lawyer too
he got better
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:04 PM
sure and being a lawyer is his job
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:04 PM
and so was piano for a while
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:05 PM
his job was gambling
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:05 PM
he played piano on the side
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:05 PM
as a front
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:05 PM
and in the dark
and it made me cry just a little
is this sending
ok
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:05 PM
now it is
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:05 PM
it just lagged
WELP
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:09 PM
hi black locks
lex had to be responsible for the death of the child somehow or another
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:11 PM
wait, what child
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:11 PM
...the, one that victoria has been carrying in flashbacks
did you
really not pick up on that
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:11 PM
....i have not noticed her carrying any such child
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:11 PM
...you didn't, realize that she was having morning sickness. and that she said "it could have been a false positive"
and that there was something she needed to tell lucas in person about a night they spent together in the hut
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:12 PM
i thought she just didnt want to get out of bed
i never want tog et out of bed
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:12 PM
and that this was nine months before the expedition
yeah but
that was
far from the only clue here
yes victoria has been pregnant in the flashbacks with lucas's child
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:12 PM
well it all went completely over my head ok
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:12 PM
that's incredible
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:13 PM
i legitimately had no clue what you were on about with the nine months thing
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:13 PM
i'm flabbergasted that you didn't pick up on this
i know it's you but
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:13 PM
well i didnt
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:13 PM
amazed
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:13 PM
what do you want me to say
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:14 PM
i'm just glad this log will be in the thread
but yeah anyway makes the most sense to me that the child died and it was lex's fault somehow and that's why lucas offed him
victoria was talking up some terrible thing lex did in the beginning anyway
i didn't think it would quite be THAT bad but maybe it was an accident
wait i think curtain DID have a second investigation actually you're right
but dwam's never had a second investigation for the same crime
that's why this one felt different
the first crime always gets solved and then we move on to a different one
holy s*** i used this BG in nowhere too
it's not even relevant to cars
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:17 PM
i played that thing and i recall exactly none of these backgrounds
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:17 PM
it was the front of alberto and gretta's house
you don't remember it bc it was at night tho
that's why none of these have been familiar
dwam's using the day versions
crazy coincidence tho
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:19 PM
THATS RIGHT NICK
CHECK HIS BROWSER HISTORY LOOK UP ALL HIS FAVORITE PORN SITES
i can also 100% gaurantee you
the parenting book would have flown clean over my head as well
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:22 PM
just funny you caught the blood thing as soon as we got the knife but this one was lost on you
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:22 PM
im not good at sublety
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:22 PM
this was not subtle
i'm sad he didn't find any of his porn
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:23 PM
what does he even fap to dwam the people must know
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:24 PM
incidentally in case you didn't get this the hut was significant bc they conceived the child there
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:24 PM
like i considered "lol they totally f***ed there" but i thought i was being juvenile
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:25 PM
i hate that dwam never gives an indicator when you're done searching an area
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:26 PM
me too but i figured it out myself eventually
theres only so many places to look
so its a lot less of a problem than it was in curtain
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:26 PM
this ain't as bad as curtain yeah
rip nick
glad that happened
oh well still gonna have payne i guess
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:32 PM
"Her body was the only thing they seemed interested in."
>context
nick lookds oddly fat in that graphic
clearly something went wrong
wonder what
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:38 PM
looks more like he's just puffing his chest out
okayyyyy i am lost now
i hate your investigations dwam
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:42 PM
i believe
you present the drop of blood to gumshoe
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:42 PM
oh ok
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:42 PM
and the stuff you found in greenwells house
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:42 PM
i presented greenwell's stuff yeah
just didn't know the drop of blood
oh wait tho i apparently didn't find anything in his office...? did the tickets thing not get added to the court record
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:43 PM
no
not in his office
his garage
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:43 PM
yeah that was the stuff i presented
it's just weird that nothing in his office seems to have gotten added
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:43 PM
theres probably a reason for that
i remember a lot of stuff in 6-5 seeming important
but then wasnt ddded
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:44 PM
i mean there had to be a reason for examining the office tho
ok well i did that...
now what
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:45 PM
and there was
it just wasnt CR worthy
at this point in time, anyway
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:45 PM
have you already advanced
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:45 PM
im still trying to present s***
i showed greenwell the stuff from the garage too
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:46 PM
i repeat: i hate your investigations dwam
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:47 PM
ui must have found everything
theres absolutely no way i havent
i just need to present stuff to gumshoe and greenwell
i just dont know what
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:47 PM
well i'm gonna bathroom lemme know when you figure it out
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 10:53 PM
YEP
I FOUND IT
PRESENT EMA TO GREENWELL
Kiri - Yesterday at 10:54 PM
ok
resync when we hit the lobby again
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:06 PM
i really love this exchange between nick and eve on the subway
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:06 PM
i love eve in general
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:08 PM
like that exchange had nothing to do with the case clearly but it felt like a very real conversation for these two people to just be having anyway and it gave so much depth to both of them
i love moments like that
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:08 PM
i wouldnt be so sure it has nothing to do with the case
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:09 PM
i don't see how it could have anything to do with it really
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:09 PM
youd be surprised
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:09 PM
i could also not be
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:09 PM
but you could be
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:12 PM
i see dwam is playing my ever-classic "exact familial resemblance" card
actually i guess we had just kinda been assuming this entire time that lex died
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:13 PM
more or less!
theya ctually cover this a bit
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:17 PM
best badge present ever
i'm still laughing about it
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:18 PM
..lex COULD be rasputin you know
he couldnt die
that was rasputins whole thing
and uh i dont think ill be getting it
hes about to leave
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:19 PM
it wasn't anything special anyway that's just also why it was perfect
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:20 PM
...well then....
lex could not possibly have less motive to kill victoria though
greenwell
absolutely
but he is not the one who died
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:20 PM
yeah he has no reason to
the only thing you coulda worked from is that he wanted to frame greenwell and that's out the window
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:21 PM
see though eve is fantastic i love her
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:21 PM
shouldn't the psyche locks have caught greenwell's lies tho? i guess he just worded it particularly but
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:21 PM
it doesnt really matter
maybe it doesnt count if nick literally knows its bulls***
in fact thats probably exactly it!
if nick already knows hes being lied to
and already knows what the lie is
the magatama probably thinks "ok buddy you got this" and doesnt kick in
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:22 PM
mayb
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:22 PM
thatd make a lot of sense in universe and larry the dumbass is living proof of it
basically all hes good for
this is so confusing
DWaM basically just pasted a poster on lex saying "lol i did it"
and his motive could not possibly make less sense
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:28 PM
adam and eve are the twins victoria was carrying who have come back from the future of an alternate timeline where they survived
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:29 PM
dwam wrote curtain
im actually willing to accept this
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:29 PM
eve killed her mom and framed her dad out of revenge and adam is trying to avenge them playing for the other team to get his sister caught
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:30 PM
that i will not accept eve is a perfect human who would never harm a fly and how actually dare you accuse her
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:30 PM
if you called eve a perfect human who would never harm a fly she would laugh in your face
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:30 PM
then she can laugh idc
im glad i amuse her
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:32 PM
can we plz get back to ema now
yes thank you
oh no i'm lost again
actually maybe not
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:40 PM
i have ideas
i just need to confirm they are the right ones
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:40 PM
nope definitely lost
i hate your investigations dwam
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:41 PM
did you see adam again
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:41 PM
yeah
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:41 PM
present locket to lucas
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:43 PM
okay lex is the biggest creep
he even gaslighted her with the key thing jesus
guess he did nothing to the child tho
yeah she just had a miscarriage seems like
ahhhh this makes a lot of sense now tho
of course ema would hide that
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:46 PM
regardless NOW i appear to be stuck
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:46 PM
i do find it quite interesting that nick figured that out on his own tho WITHOUT confirming via the psyche-locks directly...
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:47 PM
begs the question of what thats for
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:48 PM
anyway ya me lost again
gonna go dance around in the forest a while
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:48 PM
this is why i like linear investigations
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:48 PM
same
or at least just open-ended ones with better indicators about wtf to do
i'm just waiting for nick to get attacked by rave the raven
if that doesn't happen this was all for naught
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:50 PM
thats it
im peeking at the script
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:53 PM
find it?
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:54 PM
THINK SO
show lex to gumshoe
i presented literally all the new evidence EXCEPT that
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:55 PM
holy s*** why wouldn't presenting any of the stuff you found in the office work for that too tho
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:55 PM
because what youre going for is proposing the blood on the knife is his
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:56 PM
still dumb
uh where to now then
berserkerbladerx - Yesterday at 11:59 PM
did you go back to the WAA
Kiri - Yesterday at 11:59 PM
oh nah i will
i keep f***in
accidentally clicking onto the wrong path
there's so many forest paths
August 4, 2017
Kiri - Today at 12:00 AM
i keep going in circles through them forgetting which is the correct one
anyway that still just makes it obviously the blade from five years ago he was stabbed with
also reminder to resync in lobby
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:02 AM
obviously
so we'll just have to nail him with something else
Kiri - Today at 12:03 AM
this is a BG from TQT
just one old guy, eh...
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:09 AM
but lex is clearly alive
unless he actually DOES have an evil twin
Kiri - Today at 12:09 AM
i don't think that was the old guy in question
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:09 AM
then who was it
Kiri - Today at 12:09 AM
idk but there was an old guy mentioned and an old guy now dead
not true ema i have lucid dreamed before
it was terrifying bc inception has programmed my mind to think that everything in my dream will kill me once i know i'm dreaming
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:13 AM
im honestly disappointed you ruined the pregnancy thing for me
Kiri - Today at 12:13 AM
i adored the floor is lava scene
makes it so much more tragic that ema lost her
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:13 AM
i STILL would not have gotten it even after that conversation with lucas
Kiri - Today at 12:14 AM
you're something else
victoria just became aware that she is a video game character
well that was f***ing bizarre but i'm in the lobby now
lemme know when you are
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:19 AM
oh i... kind of assumed you were further ahead
i just got to the first testimony
Kiri - Today at 12:19 AM
god dammiiiiiiit
i said to resync here so many times
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:20 AM
its not that much
i will wait
Kiri - Today at 12:20 AM
ok
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:20 AM
it kinda got pushed out of my mind i was so goddamn pleased to be done with that investigation my bad
Kiri - Today at 12:20 AM
that much is understandable
eve testifying for lex is pretty great
ok at the testiomny
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:27 AM
eve doing literally anything at all is great
anyway i told you it wouldnt take long
okay i know thats probably true
but theres no way in hell they can just -accept- that
Kiri - Today at 12:28 AM
the blood coagulation thing?
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:28 AM
no the fact that the knife was preserved for five years
Kiri - Today at 12:28 AM
oh
yeah it's iffy
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:29 AM
really should have played up how bulls*** it was that thats an acceptable explanation
byt he way
lex is actually the biggest dumbass on the planet if he doesnt have a wire on this girl and telling her what to say
Kiri - Today at 12:31 AM
i'm pretty sure that's exactly what he's doing
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:31 AM
just establishing
Kiri - Today at 12:35 AM
wait how does rumstrum's phone not tie him to the scene
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:36 AM
just happened to have that particular app downloaded stalking that particular car
bulls***, absolutley
but hey
if this is flying
that can, too
Kiri - Today at 12:37 AM
i just don't understand why you'd even have that statement there if that wasn't the contradiction that's incredibly misleading
okay THAT'S why it's there
still silly
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:40 AM
whys it there
im having a hard time with this one
Kiri - Today at 12:40 AM
want answer?
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:40 AM
yes
Kiri - Today at 12:40 AM
second set of tier tracks
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:42 AM
why would you need to go to the mechanic for this
go to the f***ing car wash
Kiri - Today at 12:43 AM
well
payne is literally only in the case so that some really, REALLY stupid mistakes could be justified
this contradiction is obvious thus this will probably be a multi
y'know at some point we lost the prank call evidence
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:55 AM
the police call replaces it, is my guess
thats what the call was about
so having the call was redundant
Kiri - Today at 12:55 AM
yeah probably
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:58 AM
i like
have an IDEA
if he was the one who broke into the garage
he could figure it out pretty easily
but i dont know how to prove this
Kiri - Today at 12:58 AM
wait what are you on?
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:58 AM
2nd CE
Kiri - Today at 12:59 AM
you, never presented the phone?
berserkerbladerx - Today at 12:59 AM
i did
it did not work
do it yourself
see what happens
Kiri - Today at 1:00 AM
like did you do the prove he was tracking someone bit, is that a dead end or something
berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:00 AM
i presented the phone
and what happened was
wright was all
"check phone records pl0x"
and eve was like
"already did lol
"nutthin honey"
and nick was all FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
and then they got married
Kiri - Today at 1:00 AM
none of this happened
berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:00 AM
well all of this happened for me
maybe i did it on the wrong statement
Kiri - Today at 1:01 AM
you present it on the statement where it's like, he couldn't have known about the meeting
berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:01 AM
okay thats what happene yes
Kiri - Today at 1:05 AM
btw
the badge wound up being quite relevant indeed
berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:10 AM
(Secretary's kinda hot, though!)
i concur
Kiri - Today at 1:11 AM
i'm beginning to worry i have stumbled into a bad end
berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:12 AM
i don't care we need to get his head on a pole anyway
he fired eve
he needs to fry
yesterday
last week
-last year-
"I think he intended to come back for me and dispose of my body later."
I think this is the statement....
Kiri - Today at 1:20 AM
woooooah all the sprites just died
berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:21 AM
oh
that happens after too much saving and reloading
reboot pywright
Kiri - Today at 1:21 AM
yeah i just did
berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:21 AM
all will be well in the world
so uh
lex's CE
anything?
Kiri - Today at 1:21 AM
workin on it
i'm really like not certain what statement to attack here, pretty much EVERYTHING looks like it could be something to me
so i've been trying a buncha different things all over the place but no bites yet
GOT IT
want the answer?
berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:25 AM
yes
the whole thing seems airtight so
except the speculation
Kiri - Today at 1:25 AM
knife, he thought he'd killed me
this was what i'd been trying to present for a while now
lex is breaking way too easily here
WELL
we need some eva saving now methinks
o-
oh
berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:34 AM
yeaaaaahhhhhh
Kiri - Today at 1:34 AM
some undertale s***
oh i guess it was not even
i thought that gotcha was there for. something
i am confused now what do we do
oh you just went offline
berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:36 AM
WAIT RELOAD
my internet died
remkad the
ok
you glt jr
Kiri - Today at 1:36 AM
i what
berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:36 AM
you got it
Kiri - Today at 1:37 AM
i did?
do i just keep reloading until something else happens
berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:37 AM
you saw the gotcha.
Kiri - Today at 1:37 AM
yes
i reloaded and the same thing happened
did something different happen for you
that is the third time i've done it and nothing different is happening still
berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:38 AM
i dont it then what the f*** did we miss
Kiri - Today at 1:39 AM
i walkthrough peaked
i get it now
listen to the recording
on the gotcha
berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:40 AM
i feel dumb...
why would that not be my first thought
Kiri - Today at 1:41 AM
that was really clever
pretty heavy
there she isssss
honestly i think i know where this is going and it's absolutely insane if i'm right
it's like... the only way it COULD be going as far as i can see
berserkerbladerx - Today at 1:58 AM
how DOES an anthro apologist wind up infected with government poison i dont get it
berserkerbladerx - Today at 2:00 AM
ah okay
that is how an anthro apologist winds up infected with government poison
Kiri - Today at 2:05 AM
ahhhh that's why ema found the blood so odd
so many people are on the stand lmao
berserkerbladerx - Today at 2:12 AM
lex is like
one of the best fake real killers in a while
it seemed so obvious
Kiri - Today at 2:14 AM
just got done with lucas
this case is nuts
NO
NOT ANOTHER DAY OF INVESTIGATION I REFUSE
just... anything but that
ok this part as ema is really cool tho
oh nooooo it turned into a real investigative segment why god
ema has no court record
maybe this won't be so bad
berserkerbladerx - Today at 2:27 AM
i think i just found out what adams real name is
still working on eve
and what the adam and eve relationship is there
provided there is one
but it feels absurd there wouldnt be
actually...
yeah....
dwam i hate you forever if im right...
Kiri - Today at 2:30 AM
F*** ema just relentlessly killed greenwell
he deserves it tho
also resync again once we get back in the courtroom
berserkerbladerx - Today at 2:38 AM
donnerhug
rumstrum
nova
dwam surnames sure are sometimes
i preferred moriarity
Kiri - Today at 2:39 AM
not quite zeta level but approaching it
i really love how ema's investigative style shows just how s***ty nick is at it
the lady gets stuff done
berserkerbladerx - Today at 2:42 AM
eh,, different ground to cover
that being said i was off about adams name
but im still
susupicious
about something
Kiri - Today at 2:45 AM
reminder to resync when we get back to trial
berserkerbladerx - Today at 2:45 AM
i am going to forget if i have metric f***tons of investigation to still go through
just tell me when youre at the lobby and bulls***
Kiri - Today at 2:45 AM
that's why i will keep reminding
talking to adam now btw
Kiri - Today at 3:02 AM
oh boy thurston was a creep too
berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:02 AM
well thurston was a "b**** has what I want and I NEED" creep
he didn't really give two s***s about the person who was attached to the thing he was after
she just happened to be the one who had it
Kiri - Today at 3:02 AM
true
glad thurston left a very convenient summary of his related actions to the case lying here
ahhhh eve was his daughter
berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:10 AM
VICTORIA JUST IMPLIED RAVE THE RAVEN KILLED HER
WE ARE NOT OUT OF THE WOODS YET
Kiri - Today at 3:11 AM
the info about the raven's been held back for so f***ing long at this point that i'm beliving that really might be all there is to it
someone probably did set it off intentionally for this somehow at least tho
berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:12 AM
nobody set it loose
rave the raven acted all on his own
he is the true mastermind behind it all
also are you tired at all yet or is it safe to drink monster and finish this
Kiri - Today at 3:14 AM
oh i'm tired but we're definitely finishing this
this flashback scene with cognizant victoria is also amazing
the lucas on-on-one redux may have been my favorite thing dwam's ever written
holy s***
UGHHHHH that entire section was perfect beyond words it actually got me welling up
i adore how her conversation with ema was near identical bc she was the only one she was ever truly able to be honest with
also resync reminder
oh goodness we gotta find it ourselves huh
I TOLD YOU PEOPLE COULD BE AWARE THEY WERE DREAMING EMA
i'm guessing it also works so that no matter which direction you go you eventually stumble into Plot
makes the most sense anyway since we're in wacko world
berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:37 AM
yeah dont worry about the directions
anything works
dwam implies as much in the walkthrough
speaking of which, may need to pull that up
Kiri - Today at 3:38 AM
for what
berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:38 AM
anyway im finally f***ing done
you'll see...
Kiri - Today at 3:38 AM
okay will wait for me then
playin this close to 4 AM is also v spooky
i wonder if it'd still work if you took the directions that just made you constantly go back to where you were
that'd be funny
berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:45 AM
it would work no matter what ill tell you right now
dwam can be a d***
this is not the sort of flavor of d*** he is
are you back in reality yet
Kiri - Today at 3:49 AM
yup, checkin up on how your perfect girl who'd never hurt a fly is doin
berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:50 AM
shes just worried and scared
Kiri - Today at 3:51 AM
she literally up and kills ema for telling her the truth
i've been worried and scared before
i have never done that
we've created a time paradox
berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:53 AM
a damn fine one if i do say so myself
it means there exists a world where eve got away with it since shes kind of obviously the killer now
Kiri - Today at 3:54 AM
can't wait to put her head on a pike
anyway i've gotten ema killed enough walkthrough-a-go-go
berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:54 AM
which means there exists the potential for me to tap into this timeline, become the CEO of my own company, and hire her as MY secretary since shes currently unemployed
itll be my wish if i find the key to el dorado
Kiri - Today at 3:55 AM
she'd kill you too
berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:55 AM
not if i played my cards right
and if i didnt then oh well
i would die with no regrets
also i would already be dead
you don't get your el dorado wish until you die
Kiri - Today at 3:56 AM
i mean you would have to live for your wish to come true to
so how does any of this work at all
berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:56 AM
not necessarily
i would just need to find the key to el dorado before i died
Kiri - Today at 3:56 AM
yes but. how does she be your secretary if you is dead
berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:57 AM
because i can wish for whatever i want in el dorado
Kiri - Today at 3:57 AM
then she would kill you again
berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:57 AM
even if that wish defies logic and transcends the realm between the living and the dead
nah
you cant kill the dead
i think thats a rule
Kiri - Today at 3:57 AM
i do not think that's how it works
berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:57 AM
then you are thinking too hard about it
Kiri - Today at 3:57 AM
with a wish you would have to be reborn in some capacity
into a different plane of existence no less
so whether you died in another wouldn't matter
berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:58 AM
-this is my el dorado wish and you can't make me not want it-
Kiri - Today at 3:58 AM
you can have it
i'm just sayin
she would still kill you
berserkerbladerx - Today at 3:59 AM
AND I WOULD DIE A HAPPY MAN
Kiri - Today at 4:03 AM
okay i made it out alive
not in court yet tho
berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:03 AM
you just go to the lobby
see shes a nice girl
you just have to tell her what she wants to hear
Kiri - Today at 4:03 AM
no she is not
berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:03 AM
yes she is you will not slander my secretary in such a way
Kiri - Today at 4:03 AM
there are a hundred different paths in there in which she murders you in cold blood
she is a wretched human being and i can't wait to throw her in the slammer
berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:04 AM
im going to throw YOU in the slammer if you continue to harass my staff
Kiri - Today at 4:04 AM
i do love that you get out of it by convincing her that you've pinned the wrong culprit conclusively tho that was clever
A'IGHT in the lobby
f***ing hell this is one long case
berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:09 AM
the angry dragon was longer
Kiri - Today at 4:09 AM
was it really?
it's gotta be close
berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:09 AM
are you forgetting just how ridiculous that case was
this literally only feels longer because we got stuck a few times
Kiri - Today at 4:10 AM
maybe
GOD i love ema
and especially love watching her rip lucas and lex new ones
i really hope this isn't a long confrontation bc i am dying ove here
this feels longer bc we played dragon's in two sessions that's why
berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:19 AM
yeah but we got 90% of dragon in the first go
Kiri - Today at 4:19 AM
i think this has to be about 90% of dragon's length
berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:19 AM
im not saying this isnt a long case
the angry dragon was just longer
Kiri - Today at 4:19 AM
world's least conventional CE theme
oh god it just occurred to me that SHE was hiding in the trunk the whole time
that's why it had to be emptied out
i shoulda thought of that forever ago
berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:25 AM
well she only came into play recently
and also
greenwells car doesnt work on any of those statements
Kiri - Today at 4:25 AM
yeah i just mean the possibility that the killer did that in general
berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:25 AM
and thats the piece of evidence youd think of
Kiri - Today at 4:25 AM
yeah i don't think you point it out here
it just occurred to me thinking about in general how she could have gotten there
i wish i could just point out she was an FBI agent
berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:26 AM
its easier than that
i knew i was onto something but
novas phone
Kiri - Today at 4:27 AM
oh i tried that
wrong statement i guess
berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:27 AM
you tried it on the wrong statement
the first
Kiri - Today at 4:27 AM
yeah there we go
oh god i am not pressing that
f*** dwam forever if presses are required here
i already know the solution to this i just hope i can present it already
what the f*** is up with all the random leg injuries also
we STILL don't know what the significance of victoria's was
berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:31 AM
well when i speculated it might be connected
i presumed it was, you know
around the time she actually died
five years later
its probably healed by now
Kiri - Today at 4:31 AM
yeah but then like why was it brought up so much
even made note to show her injuring it again in mystic cave zone
berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:31 AM
well obviously dwam isa huge spongebob mark
Kiri - Today at 4:33 AM
ok no you can present this immediately thank god
berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:33 AM
im still pressing everything
Kiri - Today at 4:33 AM
but knowing dwam this CE will have like 47 contradictions in it
berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:33 AM
it goes against my duty not to
Kiri - Today at 4:33 AM
i am just too tired
i love this case a lot but right now i love sleep more
i have to work today
wow i can't believe a testimony as long as that one really only had the one glaringly apparent contradiction
i think i might need to press this next one dwammit
but it's shorter so whatever
i'm also stuck af on it
berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:46 AM
im just going to get you started off
rumstrums phone, statement 3
Kiri - Today at 4:48 AM
thank
berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:48 AM
admit i walkthroughd that one but
Kiri - Today at 4:48 AM
idc at this point
f***ing love btw
that to the entire FBI
it was this huge mystery as to which FBI agent could have possibly been the one to give mr. thurston classified info
and didn't think that maybe
just MAYBE
his daughter
who HAPPENS TO BE AN FBI AGENT
could potentially be worth looking into
and in fact thought she would be the ideal counter-mole
incredible
berserkerbladerx - Today at 4:58 AM
aa police applies to FBI as well
berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:00 AM
also see
being dead means you cannot die again
it does in fact work this way
you owe me five dollars
Kiri - Today at 5:00 AM
this is before her wish has been granted
if her wish brings her life back then she can lose it once more
uh do you got this one
berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:06 AM
i just got there give me a second
police call
statement 2
Kiri - Today at 5:09 AM
thank i would never have even given statement 2 a second look
now he's protecting her
it never ends
EVE YOU JUST CONFESSED YOU PLANTED LISTENING DEVICES UNDER OATH
berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:19 AM
statement 2
Kiri - Today at 5:19 AM
oh i already got it
this one was obvious
berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:19 AM
fingerprint
not to me but my brains shut down
Kiri - Today at 5:23 AM
got the next one too
ty for making these easy dwam
keep it that way
rave the raven's moment finally come to roost
eve's counter-arguments are pathetic lmao
berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:28 AM
shes sort of out of room to stand on
spoiler alert
this is the last one
Kiri - Today at 5:31 AM
thank god
ema confirmed the blood hooray
i feel bad that the commentary for the end is so sparse bc we're both dead
for the record you were right tho
i was in fact surprised
berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:47 AM
i told you not to dismiss it so quickly
Kiri - Today at 5:48 AM
rip pywright
berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:48 AM
well
novas body, statement 7
if you saved...
Kiri - Today at 5:48 AM
oh i already got that
by walkthrough peaking (y)
berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:49 AM
i dont think either of us care about that anymire
Kiri - Today at 5:56 AM
i knew it was gonna be the child
berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:56 AM
what child
when was ther eveer a
child involved in this case
Kiri - Today at 5:57 AM
You'll get it
berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:57 AM
i mean i know i will
it was a joke
Kiri - Today at 5:57 AM
Oh
I thought you had seriously forgotten again tbh
berserkerbladerx - Today at 5:58 AM
you cant really say i forgot it
i didnt forget anything
it all went mach five over my head
Kiri - Today at 6:00 AM
Anyway I'm not sure what I'm gonna do with the review for this one
berserkerbladerx - Today at 6:01 AM
this kind of like
Kiri - Today at 6:01 AM
This was like, easily my favorite dwam case ever
berserkerbladerx - Today at 6:01 AM
the ZTD baby thing
except
satisfying
Kiri - Today at 6:01 AM
It's gonna be hard to be critical about anything other than dunking on how s***ty the investigations were
I'll need to let it settle anyway
i am gonna do that by going the h*ck to sleep now
Well, this was certainly a nice thing to wake up to.
I'm glad to see you (I'm hoping both?) enjoyed my investigation segments the case as much as you did! The logs were pretty funny to go through, too. (The sudden and random arguing was honestly the best part of it, forget all that other case-related nonsense.)
I'm looking forward to the review! Once again, thanks for playing!
Oh, also
Spoiler : Case spoilerz :
The inn scene "replay" was probably my favorite to write, so I'm happy you enjoyed it as much as you did.
Excellent job, DWaM! Just finished it, and I really liked how your writing brought such complex characters to life.
A quick question about the ending:
Spoiler : :
After the door is opened and before the fade-to-black, the sound of a baby crying is head. Is it is to metaphorically symbolize that Victoria's 'wish' to El Dorado is to see her child that was never born?
"Ellery is merely indulging in his favorite game of ratiocination. He doesn't know where the papers are any more than you do. he's guessing....in detective literature," he added with a sad smile, "They call it the 'art of deduction."
