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[PyWright] A Turnabout To El Dorado (Released!)
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Re: [PyWright] A Turnabout To El Dorado (Released!)
Thank you for playing! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
- Ferdielance
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Re: [PyWright] A Turnabout To El Dorado (Released!)
Okay, I've played this, and I'm going to break my comments into two sections: non-spoilery and spoilery.
General non-spoiler comments
* A Turnabout to El Dorado is a hefty case, but it differs from some of DWaM's prior long cases. Its length doesn't come from the piling on of twist after twist. Instead, the case focuses intensely on the relationships of its central characters, building up the stakes and gradually revealing motivations. All the while, the pacing is generally tight, with the exception of a few digressive conversations, and the scenes varied enough to keep any given scene from dragging. These characters act for compelling reasons, even if sometimes those reasons are seriously foolish.
* DWaM's work often veers wildly out of control, with massive plot-branching and subplots within subplots. When this pedal-to-the-metal approach works, it's exhilarating, but A Turnabout to El Dorado works differently. It is far more more measured than any of DWaM's previous work; it's disciplined and sharp, even if it appears, at certain points, to be digressing needlessly. While DWaM often writes about self-deception, this case explores the reasons people might fool themselves and others in a more focused way. I didn't keep count at the number of times I grinned or nodded at a particularly observant piece of dialogue, but there were many.
* As expected of a DWaM case, the presentation is excellent. DWaM does not rest on his laurels here; he introduces some new presentational tricks that make use of PyWright's capabilities in a story-appropriate way. They aren't show-off moves - each genuinely adds to a scene. Whether it's elevator doors slamming shut with a sharp finality, or the changing of the lower screen to reflect swapped investigators, or a few deliberately bizarre screen effects, the devices used here genuinely contribute to the mood and the tension. Sprites, too, are mostly well-chosen.
* This isn't to say that this game is flawless. One critical character is underwhelming and unconvincing, but the rest of the cast carry the case well. Some of the cross-examinations penalize the player for pointing out real, serious contradictions in the wrong order - the characters here sometimes lie so badly that it's hard to find the exact hole DWaM wants the player to see. One set of locations is a pain to navigate during the investigation, though this may be intentional. All in all, though, this case was a lot of fun.
General non-spoiler comments
* A Turnabout to El Dorado is a hefty case, but it differs from some of DWaM's prior long cases. Its length doesn't come from the piling on of twist after twist. Instead, the case focuses intensely on the relationships of its central characters, building up the stakes and gradually revealing motivations. All the while, the pacing is generally tight, with the exception of a few digressive conversations, and the scenes varied enough to keep any given scene from dragging. These characters act for compelling reasons, even if sometimes those reasons are seriously foolish.
* DWaM's work often veers wildly out of control, with massive plot-branching and subplots within subplots. When this pedal-to-the-metal approach works, it's exhilarating, but A Turnabout to El Dorado works differently. It is far more more measured than any of DWaM's previous work; it's disciplined and sharp, even if it appears, at certain points, to be digressing needlessly. While DWaM often writes about self-deception, this case explores the reasons people might fool themselves and others in a more focused way. I didn't keep count at the number of times I grinned or nodded at a particularly observant piece of dialogue, but there were many.
* As expected of a DWaM case, the presentation is excellent. DWaM does not rest on his laurels here; he introduces some new presentational tricks that make use of PyWright's capabilities in a story-appropriate way. They aren't show-off moves - each genuinely adds to a scene. Whether it's elevator doors slamming shut with a sharp finality, or the changing of the lower screen to reflect swapped investigators, or a few deliberately bizarre screen effects, the devices used here genuinely contribute to the mood and the tension. Sprites, too, are mostly well-chosen.
* This isn't to say that this game is flawless. One critical character is underwhelming and unconvincing, but the rest of the cast carry the case well. Some of the cross-examinations penalize the player for pointing out real, serious contradictions in the wrong order - the characters here sometimes lie so badly that it's hard to find the exact hole DWaM wants the player to see. One set of locations is a pain to navigate during the investigation, though this may be intentional. All in all, though, this case was a lot of fun.
Spoiler : spoilers :
"A slow sort of country!" said the Queen. "Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!"
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Re: [PyWright] A Turnabout To El Dorado (Released!)
Just finished the case, and all i have to say is... Great job mate!
It was amazing all the way through!
It was amazing all the way through!
Re: [PyWright] A Turnabout To El Dorado (Released!)
Okay, this isn't about the game itself, but about bugs in PyWright.
I'm told you shouldn't save during lists or menus, because the save files could be bad.
What constitutes lists or menus? Do cross-examinations count? Most of the saving I do is during cross-examinations.
I'm told you shouldn't save during lists or menus, because the save files could be bad.
What constitutes lists or menus? Do cross-examinations count? Most of the saving I do is during cross-examinations.
Re: [PyWright] A Turnabout To El Dorado (Released!)
Okay, I've started playing. It's good, though a lot of sections are rather long and chatty with things that don't seem at all relevant given what we know in the present day. It feels ... well, padded at times.
I've only gotten a bit into it, but there's one aspect of a testimony that seems odd to me.
The bit in the spoiler was one major quibble with this. As for the rest, I'm trusting a lot of it will end up paying off in the end.
I've only gotten a bit into it, but there's one aspect of a testimony that seems odd to me.
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Re: [PyWright] A Turnabout To El Dorado (Released!)
Is there a link on play?
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Re: [PyWright] A Turnabout To El Dorado (Released!)
What are you talking about? This isn't your case to release, and it's already fully released.
[D]isordered speech is not so much injury to the lips that give it forth, as to the disproportion and incoherence of things in themselves, so negligently expressed. ~ Ben Jonson