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Re: This will be the only website I trust form now on.

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LOTS of adblocking apps/extensions, too.
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What if I told you, that ads and iAP models for free apps are essential for a company to generate some type of revenue?

Also, most companies that have control over a distribution system (Valve, M$ and Xbox in regards to XBL games, Apple and App store, etc.) take a % of money from revenues that are made. So if you think this is an evil practice then you probably shouldn't be having a smartphone that has an app store.
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Do blocked ads count as read?
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ProsecutorJustice wrote:Do blocked ads count as read?

Nope, most sites dont use the pay-by-view model anymore, they rely on pay-by-click (where you actually have to see the ad and click on it in order to help the site generate revenue this way)
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Lots of websites ask for disabling adblock in order to support them, but I'm... not really this much noble-minded to go through all this stuff, to be honest.
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^Disabling adblock? Or installing it? :P
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Hm, why would owners of site earning money on ads recommend installing an app blocking it?...
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Huh? Did you mean disabling it? My question was referring your noble-minded comment btw. Sorry for confusion.

Most site owners who are aware of their users using the app either don't say anything about the matter since if they become informed of that choice, more users will likely just install such plugins and forget it existed (since he/she may not take the time to whitelist certain sites).
That means lots of lost revenue.

It's not a surprise Unas retorted in reply when I suggested using Adblock in that one thread for a user who didn't want to deal with the top ad on the forum :P.

But I have seen some sites whose editors suggested using this plugin if the ads are malicious without their site's owners not being aware of the content problem. Then it comes down to a simple moral choice of if you want to consciously support teh site or not.
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I use Adblock, but have it disabled on AAO.
Mind you, I use the AAO Forums 6 layout, so I don't see any ads anyway. :P
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Putin wrote:Huh? Did you mean disabling it? My question was referring your noble-minded comment btw. Sorry for confusion.
I meant not being as noble-minded to go disable it to support site's owners... ^^'
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^And that's perfectly a fine decision. Good thing about adblock is it also prevents tracking cookies that may be embedded within the ad. So if you don't want advertisers following you wherever site you go to with those tracking cookies, using adblock nondiscriminately is a good way to go to reduce that kind of load.
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They advertise ' Free games apps' then charge you for energy when you run out!

From this 'coins' thing and yes it is hidden deep in their terms and conditions but you have to be sneaky to find it.

So if you got more energy from facebook for a free game ' You Were charged!'

A free game should be ' Free'

So I am going to shout :objection: to this unfair charges ' Free apps games should be free.'

If you have a facebook account just a warning a game could cost you over hundreds of pounds with out thinking they get you with the game.

Just stop playing and join my fight for free apps I am even ignoring all request from other people. To rejoin facebook
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You shouldn't be charged from the get-go as you lose out of all your energy (you or your parents don't have credit card information tacked within facebook do you?). They'll annoy you with pop-ups to pay for more though.


But facebook games aren't the only ones that rely on this model....Most free smartphone games use the same model of IAP (In-App-Purchases).
Capcom even does it with some of their games as a way for potential customers to demo their product (Ghost Trick, AA Collection).

You the consumer just have to be informed/aware enough not to get scammed by the useless free games though
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Hmm what is this social fixer thing? Thank you for you wonderful debate.

I am off Facebook for good because it sounds like that not the only problem if their not careful they could be come the next ask.fm.
Due to recent news stories about abuse.
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