Tricks to a Cross-Examination

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Re: Tricks to a Cross-Examination

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@Enthalpy -
Thanks, I think I should be able to manage it.

@Revolution -
The exact reason why I want to do it is too long to explain fully. But the simple version is "the judge is a monster who talks in 'rawr', the prosecutor's a robot, there's no defense, the trial is overall more screwed up in concept than Ace Attorney canon, and the witness is just that terrible". Basically there's a sorta-good reason for it, just don't have time to explain completely why.
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Re: Tricks to a Cross-Examination

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Nobody has called me that in two years... :mia:

Anyway, if you're going to do that, keep your evidence and statements to a minimum so you can code it much more easily.
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Re: Tricks to a Cross-Examination

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E.D.Revolution wrote:Possible, but nigh impractical. I can see its uses for false contradictions, but, beyond that, why would you want to do that?

I can see this happening for very vague CEs (and even then, kept to fewer than 5 statements including reveal), but it becomes a pain for the author and it will become much more of a pain for the player. You also run into the problem of combinations of statements and evidence as shown here. In short, not recommended.
Hey, you linked to my tutorial. I'm flattered. :larry:
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Re: Tricks to a Cross-Examination

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Added two basic CE techniques: Rotating Statements and Press to Obtain Evidence.

Are there any other basic CE forms that I should add here?
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Re: Tricks to a Cross-Examination

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Reformatted the guide to reflect the skills needed to pull off most of the contradictions. Most of the sections have a few notes about writing on them, like how to use X effectively.
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Re: Tricks to a Cross-Examination

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Thank you, very interesting tutorial
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Re: Tricks to a Cross-Examination

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I'm having some problems with Press to Obtain Evidence, I can't get the code to work properly. I'm probably doing something stupid, but here are my questions:
Should X (Preuve/Profil) be in quotes? single or double quotes? What about Y (the evidence ID)? Should preuve/profil have any capitals? Does this still work in V6? Do I need to end the codeblock with a semicolon or something?

Sorry for my stupidity, I've been trying to get this cross-examination working for a month now and I'm running out of ideas.
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Re: Tricks to a Cross-Examination

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f:evidence_is_revealed('X',Y)

Single quotes only on X because it's a string, aka "word", not a value. I don't think it matters how you case the word "preuve" or "profil" as long as it's spelled correctly. Play it safe, though, and keep it all lowercase. Y doesn't need quotes. No Semicolon. Just a colon after "f" because "f:" means "function:"

In other words...

f:evidence_is_revealed('preuve',1)

if the first evidence is the attorney badge means

check that "function: evidence number 1 is revealed" is true.

This works in v6.

I can change the info here, but not in the other guide because that's under judgement for BAoL Tutorial Comp.
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Re: Tricks to a Cross-Examination

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E.D I can't find the "Enter Cross-Examination" in the actions tab. Has it changed? If it did, can you make an updated version?
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Re: Tricks to a Cross-Examination

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E.D.Revolution wrote:Note: This guide will soon be outdated. If you are using v5, keep on reading. If you are using v6, go here.
[D]isordered speech is not so much injury to the lips that give it forth, as to the disproportion and incoherence of things in themselves, so negligently expressed. ~ Ben Jonson
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