It might have speed boost? Serebii didn't say anything about abilities for the megas yet, I don't think...Bad Player wrote:...both numel and camerupt are camelsAmi wrote:Sharpedo's always been somewhat of a threat, but has always had something holding it back. Megapedo may prove to be powerful.
... also, anyone think it's sorta disjointed that a rabbit (numel) becomes cow (camerupt)? Anyway, kinda disappointed that there isn't a MegaTorkoal. I kinda want one. Also, YAY MEGA GALLADE~ <3
also idk about sharpedo w/o speed boost
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Maybe one could do something likeBad Player wrote:Sharpedo is strong jaws, Camerupt is sheer force
Sharpedo @ Sharpite [Natures, IV's, EV's, pretend they're optimized)
Ability: Speed Boost (Strong Jaws)
Protect
Waterfall
Crunch
Ice Fang
Turn 1: Protect- one speed boost + prediction
Turn 2: Switch out if necessary, otherwise Mega Evolve + Attack
OR
Replace Waterfall with Substitute
Turn 1: Protect- one speed boost + prediction
Turn 2: Substitute- another speed boost + prediction OR mega evolve & attack if that's not feasible OR switch out
Turn 3: Protect: third speed boost
Turn 4: If substitute destroyed, replace. Otherwise, attack. Fourth speed boost.
Etc. and so forth until you're satisfied with speed, but never using Substitute more than twice. Then mega evolve and attack using superior attack and speed.
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You wouldn't need Substitute or even more than one speed boost, realistically. Protect once for the boost, then mega evolve or switch.
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It's all theoretical. Though why only one? I've seen that Gyarados usually tries to DD twice from expert players.Hodou Okappa wrote:You wouldn't need Substitute or even more than one speed boost, realistically. Protect once for the boost, then mega evolve or switch.
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That's because Gyarados is both slower and bulkier than Sharpedo. Not only can he actually use the second boost to outrun a number of key threats, but he can afford to take a turn to get there. Plus, the extra Attack compensates for how often he has to run weaker non-STAB moves like the elemental fangs, Earthquake, etc.
He also doesn't do it twice anymore when running Gyaradosite but that's a different setup.
Sharpedo, on the other hand, has TWO powerful STABs, one of which is getting boosted by Strong Jaw now, and much more Speed. He doesn't need to boost twice, and in fact can't afford to give up the third attack slot for the ability to do so.
EDIT: It's also worth noting that despite this, Gyarados will probably still be a preferred choice over Sharpedo in OU. I don't expect this to drastically change Sharpedo's tiering, just make him stronger.
He also doesn't do it twice anymore when running Gyaradosite but that's a different setup.
Sharpedo, on the other hand, has TWO powerful STABs, one of which is getting boosted by Strong Jaw now, and much more Speed. He doesn't need to boost twice, and in fact can't afford to give up the third attack slot for the ability to do so.
EDIT: It's also worth noting that despite this, Gyarados will probably still be a preferred choice over Sharpedo in OU. I don't expect this to drastically change Sharpedo's tiering, just make him stronger.
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Sharpedo still needs Speed Boost then. I need to get myself a speed boost carvahna or something...
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I see! So, all we'd need is one? Mkay.
Also, what do y'all think for an entrainment truant Durant setup as a lead for the battle maison? I've been seeing that's sorta popular, and I already have a Ninjask that can speed boost/SD well, and I can pass to a Pikachu, or a Mega Charizard X, or a Mega Mawhile...
Also, what do y'all think for an entrainment truant Durant setup as a lead for the battle maison? I've been seeing that's sorta popular, and I already have a Ninjask that can speed boost/SD well, and I can pass to a Pikachu, or a Mega Charizard X, or a Mega Mawhile...
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